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89TRX / 89 500RK
« on: November 11, 2016, 08:03:14 pm »
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Long story short, wore out a Zilla frame but felt good about engine that I have been running since 2007. With engine out, and frame sent out for repairs, I decided to mock up a TRX chassis to see what all I was going to have to do to make it happen. I was thinking that I may have better luck with a gusseted box frame. Time will tell. I did not want to have to mess around with pipe fabrication (since I already had one) so the whole build was based around the pipe. I contacted a friend that could drink beer(important) and weld(important).  I showed him how the engine HAD to be exactly located and he did the rest. Thank you Jason H.!!!  Very nice job!
 Got lucky and found a set of yellow Full Bore plastics and from that point on, I knew that the frame had to be coated "our" blue. TRX450 radiator with fan was a tight fit but not impossible. LED lights and battery install was made easy by all the info available here! Thank you Rogue1970 and many others for your time that you have spent here for all to enjoy! Although I do not post, I have been a Quad Racer HQ guy for many years. I check the site multiple times most every day! Without all the info on here, I probably would not have enjoyed my 500 in the way that I do!!! It sure is a "way of life" for me! (Ask my wife)
 Thanks again to Skully, Q, Jerry, Dale, Carl, Mitch, Q2W, MaxxH20, and many many others for your precious time that you have spent here!!! You know who you are!
Z4L loves QRHQ.
 Please Note: This was a budget build! Everything is butchered up! Tires even leaking something? It is basically junk patched together! There is difference between modified and altered! It is hard to start, it runs like shit, smokes bad and vibrates!  It is not worth stealing. Leave Tina alone.

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Re: 89TRX / 89 500RK
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2016, 05:17:43 am »
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Hello QR enthusiasts!
Long story short, wore out a Zilla frame but felt good about engine that I have been running since 2007. With engine out, and frame sent out for repairs, I decided to mock up a TRX chassis to see what all I was going to have to do to make it happen. I was thinking that I may have better luck with a gusseted box frame. Time will tell. I did not want to have to mess around with pipe fabrication (since I already had one) so the whole build was based around the pipe. I contacted a friend that could drink beer(important) and weld(important).  I showed him how the engine HAD to be exactly located and he did the rest. Thank you Jason H.!!!  Very nice job!
 Got lucky and found a set of yellow Full Bore plastics and from that point on, I knew that the frame had to be coated "our" blue. TRX450 radiator with fan was a tight fit but not impossible. LED lights and battery install was made easy by all the info available here! Thank you Rogue1970 and many others for your time that you have spent here for all to enjoy! Although I do not post, I have been a Quad Racer HQ guy for many years. I check the site multiple times most every day! Without all the info on here, I probably would not have enjoyed my 500 in the way that I do!!! It sure is a "way of life" for me! (Ask my wife)
 Thanks again to Skully, Q, Jerry, Dale, Carl, Mitch, Q2W, MaxxH20, and many many others for your precious time that you have spent here!!! You know who you are!
Z4L loves QRHQ.
 Please Note: This was a budget build! Everything is butchered up! Tires even leaking something? It is basically junk patched together! There is difference between modified and altered! It is hard to start, it runs like shit, smokes bad and vibrates!  It is not worth stealing. Leave Tina alone.
From the pictures it looks good, what year is the frame?

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Re: 89 TRX / 89 500RK
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2016, 07:35:20 pm »
Hello,
This is an 89 frame. I bought it as a roller. It previously had a couple different 4 stroke Honda engines installed in it. +2"+1" Lone Star arms, +2" Lone Star stem, ( I also added 4" more to the stem), 300EX shocks up front. +2" Laeger  swingarm, +2" Durablue axle with tapered bearing carrier, stock 250R shock out back. I need 450R front shocks.
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Z4L
 




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Re: 89TRX / 89 500RK
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2016, 07:11:27 am »
Wow! sick build Z4L!

Would love to see build pics if you got.

Friend of mine just bought a trx250r and im wanting to do a hybrid myself.  Mine has all kinds of cracks in it atm.

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Re: 89TRX / 89 500RK
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2016, 04:41:56 pm »
Sweet project!! i too have been thinking of this type of hybrid.
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Re: 89TRX / 89 500RK
« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2016, 06:38:08 pm »
hows it handle compared to the 500?


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Re: 89TRX / 89 500RK
« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2016, 07:19:20 pm »
Sweet ride! Gets me thinking again.... I have a spare 250r roller and a spare Zilla motor..... now  just need someone to do the frame mods and welding

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Re: 89TRX / 89 500RK
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2016, 05:57:47 pm »
hows it handle compared to the 500?
They handle a lot better going from a zilla to the trx is a huge difference but a larger person may not like the smaller frame or feeling cramped.

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Re: 89TRX / 89 500RK
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2016, 09:31:23 pm »
Hello,
 I like sweet and sick!
Thank you for the good comments.
Q2W, I have a few pics that are interesting that I will try to get on here soon.
Glamisrider, I have to say that I have not ridden this quad enough to say how it compares. 20 hrs. My Zilla was bent up pretty bad from the early days of learning how to ride it.
My Hybrid is not set up professionally (which siomply means that I tape measured and kind of eyeballed everything) and has less than desirable shocks on it right now. But after a 7 month break away from riding quads, I feel real good on this ole' girl right now! Yes, huge difference!
FX4, If you already have the stuff to do it, you should start now! You are intelligent enough to make short work of this.

Because I was set on utilizing the pipe that I already had, I had to "roll" the engine a little bit forward. Down in the front and up in the back. You can see how crooked the "Suzuki" is on my mag cover. I am also way further towards the front of the engine compartment compared to how they did  the 250R which seems to be set towards the rear of the engine compartment. There is more room now between the swing arm and the countershaft sprocket. I do not know what effect this will have on power delivery and handling. I am just glad that the drive chain stays on!  I also had to 180 degree flip the front wheels. Welded up the old valve stem holes and drilled new on the new outside. This creates a whole new load on those spindles and bearings and I am not too sure what other ill-effects that I may be causing there. Is there an engineer in the house? (HINT! HINT!)
I do not jump big gaps (unless it is necessary.)
If you click on the picture, you should be directed to a couple more pics.?
 I can't believe nobody gonna dog me out for putting her in the back of my old Tahoe! (with 540 stickers!) <1>  We had the heater on in the morning and had the air conditioning on in the afternoon!

Thank you,
Z4L

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Re: 89TRX / 89 500RK
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2016, 01:10:57 pm »
So badass it's not funny been thinking of trading my banshee for a trx and selling the trx motor and swapping in my 500 motor and as luck would have it I own the same pipe. Nice to know it can be done and what looks like not a shit load of fab work required.

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Re: 89TRX / 89 500RK
« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2016, 01:20:31 pm »
So badass it's not funny been thinking of trading my banshee for a trx and selling the trx motor and swapping in my 500 motor and as luck would have it I own the same pipe. Nice to know it can be done and what looks like not a shit load of fab work required.
Money wise you can build a R motor easier and cheaper then a zilla for more power especially with the CP cylinders.

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Re: 89TRX / 89 500RK
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2016, 11:05:55 am »
What's the fun in just having another 250r though?

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Re: 89TRX / 89 500RK
« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2016, 12:11:36 pm »
Other problem with making a R motor make the same power as a 500 is its basically a drag power curve and you lose all usable power in the lower rpm range that is what makes the 500 so badass.

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Re: 89TRX / 89 500RK
« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2016, 12:50:07 pm »
Other problem with making a R motor make the same power as a 500 is its basically a drag power curve and you lose all usable power in the lower rpm range that is what makes the 500 so badass.
My puma has tons of low end it's no where near a drag curve and it's the same power as a dune zilla, plus it's as cast from cp.

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Re: 89TRX / 89 500RK
« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2016, 08:47:02 pm »
No mater witch way you like it built CP 250r or a Zilla hybrid this is a cool project  (Y) (Y) (Y)

The yellow plastics are very rare it seems  :o :o :o
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Re: 89TRX / 89 500RK
« Reply #15 on: November 22, 2016, 09:43:30 am »
Good job making that work!  Any Hybrid certainly has challenges.  I've seen this done a few times and the owners seemed happy.  I have a perfect set of trx450 shocks that need a home, I was planning to use them on my new hybrid project but I'm just telling you now they are really stiff... I have a very light chassis so didnt work for me. I'll make a good deal if your interested PM me.

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Re: 89TRX / 89 500RK
« Reply #16 on: November 22, 2016, 08:55:02 pm »
Hello,
Thanks guys!
It is BaddassR than it was.
 I am sure that I would love one of those high end Puma engines. I was asked more than a few times during the process of the build, why I did not want to utilize the Honda engine? Just bolt it right in and rip! I already had the 500 engine which I have been having an affair with since 2007. I know every millimeter about her. And when I am done with her, there is a good chance that I will be seen on her sister.

 Buckeye, you should be shoehorning that Banshee engine in a 250R frame. Buy a roller. Just because of the song that they sing!

I was worried about posting up some more pics cause I know how everyone loves pics, and then I just seen that there are more pics in that bucket than I thought. Just click on the pic.

I am very thankful for the "good job making that work" comment from Dale. It means a lot to the little guy. Unfortunately, you scared me when you said that those 450 shocks were too stiff for you.  If I remember correctly, you are much bigger than me in size so I don't think that they would suit me very well either. I am only 140 lbs. with M/X boots and dual carrier beer helmet on.
 
Oh Canada, That is quite a signature you have there! I would love to see your CR500.

Happy Thanksgiving all!!!
Regards,
Z4L

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Re: 89TRX / 89 500RK
« Reply #17 on: November 23, 2016, 08:49:14 am »
Hello,
Thanks guys!
It is BaddassR than it was.
 I am sure that I would love one of those high end Puma engines. I was asked more than a few times during the process of the build, why I did not want to utilize the Honda engine? Just bolt it right in and rip! I already had the 500 engine which I have been having an affair with since 2007. I know every millimeter about her. And when I am done with her, there is a good chance that I will be seen on her sister.

 Buckeye, you should be shoehorning that Banshee engine in a 250R frame. Buy a roller. Just because of the song that they sing!

I was worried about posting up some more pics cause I know how everyone loves pics, and then I just seen that there are more pics in that bucket than I thought. Just click on the pic.

I am very thankful for the "good job making that work" comment from Dale. It means a lot to the little guy. Unfortunately, you scared me when you said that those 450 shocks were too stiff for you.  If I remember correctly, you are much bigger than me in size so I don't think that they would suit me very well either. I am only 140 lbs. with M/X boots and dual carrier beer helmet on.
 
Oh Canada, That is quite a signature you have there! I would love to see your CR500.

Happy Thanksgiving all!!!
Regards,
Z4L
A buddy across the river in Washington has a set of 450 shocks on his bike with +2 +1 on a 86 R with me being your weight it beats me to death.

 

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