well ive got one side done. brafasco didnt have more then one bolt so going to another store today in a different town to pick the bolt up. heres how it looks so far
@Julie74, The bump steer mod puts the steering arms into more of a similar plane as the a-arms. This greatly reduces the toe-in/toe-out condition as the front suspension goes through it's range of motion making the handling much better.
@stpltn250r, There are several camber gauges that you can buy online.
Has anyone had any problems with the steering knuckle/ball joint spinning after this mod?
You do have to grind down the tabs on the lower a-arms right, don't those keep the knuckle/ball joint secured in place?
I did this mod to my LT250R, but haven't rode it yet, trying to find a way to make sure it's safe.
if you tighten it up they wont move, and yes the 2 tabs that hold it in place are what you grind off.
So the camber mod is done. And i did the bump steer hooked up the tie rods and wasnt able to turn the wheels. I was told this is because i maxed the tie rod movement. Does this mean i need plus 1 tie rods? For now ive gone back to stock steering but would rather bump steer if possible. Any input appreciated.
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I done the bump ster mod about 1 year ago.But Finally done camber mod today.I couldnt believe the difference in how it handle.Wish i would have done this along time ago.Really let my aftermarket shock work good. The bolt size for the lt250 is 14mm 1.25 thread so if you want to go more then .200. Best 4$ i ever spent.
So the camber mod is done. And i did the bump steer hooked up the tie rods and wasnt able to turn the wheels. I was told this is because i maxed the tie rod movement. Does this mean i need plus 1 tie rods? For now ive gone back to stock steering but would rather bump steer if possible. Any input appreciated.
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Check the pic at the beginning of this thread. Make sure when you flip the steering brackets that they are pointing in towards the bike. In the stock position, they are angled up and after you flip them, they should be angled down. I may have to put together some pics showing the steps and how to fine tune once they are flipped to minimize bump steer.
So the camber mod is done. And i did the bump steer hooked up the tie rods and wasnt able to turn the wheels. I was told this is because i maxed the tie rod movement. Does this mean i need plus 1 tie rods? For now ive gone back to stock steering but would rather bump steer if possible. Any input appreciated.
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You have stock a arms dont you.If you flip the knuckles from left to right side and right side to left side their shouldnt be no prblem you have to reset your toe in after you do this..,.I have after market tie rods but mine stock ones work just fine after i done the mod.
Dave: i actually saved ur pic to my phoine and made sure i did it the exact same way. Without tie rod hooked up the wheel can turn back and forth no problem. As soon as you hook a tie rod up you can turn it hard to the left. I only have one tie rod right now as other is broken. Is it possible the head of the tie rod isnt on the proper angle and is stopping the steering?
Try and loosen the tie rod ball joint lock nuts and find a happy spot so they will not bind. Once you are all set then lock them down. The binding could be coming from the tie rod ball ends. my .02
did you flip and rotate the brackets that the tie rod mounts to
Dave: i actually saved ur pic to my phoine and made sure i did it the exact same way. Without tie rod hooked up the wheel can turn back and forth no problem. As soon as you hook a tie rod up you can turn it hard to the left. I only have one tie rod right now as other is broken. Is it possible the head of the tie rod isnt on the proper angle and is stopping the steering?
SmokinOrBorken, Can you post up a pic? That would help in trying to figure out what's going on. Try and get a pic of both ends of the tie rod. I agree with Maxxh2o, you may be binding up or something, but it's difficult to say without seeing it.
GOT IT! After some close examination of my friends 3:22:25 PM to see whats going on i realized that previous to me owning the bike someone has bent the tie rod brackets at a terrible angle upward. I bent my brackets to match my friends flipped them around and voila! It works perfect. Thanks everyone for the advice and help. Its great to have ppl to bounce ideas off and ask questions.
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What size washers have you guys been using? And how did you judge your bolt length after grinding the ball joint locks off? I been trying to figure out a way to do this without grinding the a arms and or ball joints like maybe cutting and welding washers together so the ball joint will still lock in place.
Pulled my bike apart a few days ago to do the camber mod. The closest washers I could find were 7/8 and Iam not sure if my bike has different ball joints or not but I went to fastenal and ordered the bolts they are 14mm by 1.5 pitch thread. Matched up perfectly. I got 40 mm long bolts and will be running 3 washers on each side. It's not together yet so once it is depending on how much it's cambered I may take one out of each side. I didn't go with the camber kit because money is a little tight at the moment and may be for a little while as my wife and I are expecting twins in a few months so most of our money is being dumped into the house and being saved for the babies.
Twins.. Dam your not gonna have any extra money for that quad. LoL
Lol I know it will be tough at times but I think I will manage to get a little aside for it.