+-

Author Topic: DCS-6 Proto Testing Dyno Time!  (Read 5634 times)

Offline Buckeye513

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Elite Member
  • **********
  • Posts: 2493
  • Gender: Male
  • Location: Cincinnati OH
Re: DCS-6 Proto Testing Dyno Time!
« Reply #25 on: April 07, 2014, 06:42:51 am »
Sambone here's the engine set up

"the engine again was your average dune port, 57cc dome, 42 Mikuni, the power valve was set 1-3/4" turns for low end, lighter the spring tension faster it shuts."

Offline Mitch Keller

  • Mitch Keller
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Administrator
  • Trail Blazer
  • *****
  • Posts: 799
  • Love The Smell Of 927 and Race Fuel In The Morning
  • Location: Riverside Ca
Re: DCS-6 Proto Testing Dyno Time!
« Reply #26 on: April 07, 2014, 07:02:54 am »
good numbers Mitch, glad to see you blew past Q's pipe. but your pipe sure does look like Jerrys pipe
with all the springs holding pipe together. and can i ask why are there so many rivets in the silencer.
instead of rivets why cant you have them put bolts in it, sure would make it easy to change packing.
drilling out rivets sucks, imo  so how many of these are going to be for sale
John, this was only the Prototype Pipe and Silencer, the next batch will have machined bolts, not rivets, as for the look its just the way the pipe design  came out.
This batch of pipes are bit more costly this time around, all metal is lazer cut than template hand cut, use of Stainlees Steel in the mid pipe, the modified exhaust flange adds to the new cost, plus the prep work for plating if needed.
Looking to start selling next month, looking at $650 (RAW) shipped comes with OEM Silencer Rubber Bushings and Spacers, If any one wants the silencer polished or plated thats extra cost, we are only making 10 pipes, only 8 are available at this time, I will be taking deposits around the 20th, all transactions will be through Pay Pal, shipping of finished Pipes and Silencers should be around the 15th- 20th of next month.
This could be the last batch of DCS pipes I make, I been playing with this project over a year and time to get the new projects up and going.
F Mitch Keller

Offline Mitch Keller

  • Mitch Keller
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Administrator
  • Trail Blazer
  • *****
  • Posts: 799
  • Love The Smell Of 927 and Race Fuel In The Morning
  • Location: Riverside Ca
Re: DCS-6 Proto Testing Dyno Time!
« Reply #27 on: April 07, 2014, 07:06:14 am »
Sambone here's the engine set up

"the engine again was your average dune port, 57cc dome, 42 Mikuni, the power valve was set 1-3/4" turns for low end, lighter the spring tension faster it shuts."
Yeah I didn't want HRD or HPR porting , wanted what most of us would have for average engine porting at this time, a more aggressive porting would have shown higher numbers.
F Mitch Keller

Offline Buckeye513

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Elite Member
  • **********
  • Posts: 2493
  • Gender: Male
  • Location: Cincinnati OH
Re: DCS-6 Proto Testing Dyno Time!
« Reply #28 on: April 08, 2014, 08:41:08 pm »
Mitch here's a needle taper sheet. Thought it may help you decide what taper needle change you're after.

http://www.sudco.com/Carburetor/MikuniCatalogPg32.jpg

Offline Ferra3904

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Newbie
  • **
  • Posts: 38
  • Gender: Male
  • Location: Creekside PA
Re: DCS-6 Proto Testing Dyno Time!
« Reply #29 on: April 09, 2014, 10:50:12 am »
What DCS stand for?  Nice pipe!! I didn't know they were this close to being completed or I would of waited!

Offline Mitch Keller

  • Mitch Keller
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Administrator
  • Trail Blazer
  • *****
  • Posts: 799
  • Love The Smell Of 927 and Race Fuel In The Morning
  • Location: Riverside Ca
Re: DCS-6 Proto Testing Dyno Time!
« Reply #30 on: April 09, 2014, 10:56:15 am »
My shops Letters
F Mitch Keller

Offline Q2W

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Forum Moderator
  • Elite Member
  • *********
  • Posts: 1386
  • Gender: Male
  • Location: NWA
Re: DCS-6 Proto Testing Dyno Time!
« Reply #31 on: April 09, 2014, 12:36:14 pm »
Mitch, your low-end grunt pipe sure has turned into one of the big boys!  Congrats!  Excellent numbers!

Offline Motoman991

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Pro Member
  • ********
  • Posts: 915
  • Location: Cincinnati, Oh
Re: DCS-6 Proto Testing Dyno Time!
« Reply #32 on: April 09, 2014, 12:50:27 pm »
That dyno is looking good!

Offline Mitch Keller

  • Mitch Keller
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Administrator
  • Trail Blazer
  • *****
  • Posts: 799
  • Love The Smell Of 927 and Race Fuel In The Morning
  • Location: Riverside Ca
Re: DCS-6 Proto Testing Dyno Time!
« Reply #33 on: April 09, 2014, 12:58:32 pm »
I have been getting all kinds of messages (Here and F/B) about posting of the V2 from last year with new run of the DCS-6  the same old whining about you did'nt jet it right, you did'nt adjust the P/V right, waaaa waa waaa, look close to the sheets, temp, humidity are the same as the DCS-6 runs, why is it no one wants to step up and dyno there own V2? and when someone else does a comparison the minions cry foul....

FYI the quad used for dyno used the same fuel (New VP12 Can), mix (32-1), carb (42mm), engine (87mm bore 57 cc O ring Head), tires (20"flat track 8 psi), gearing (14/44), air cleaner (9" K&N w Filterwrap).

I would love to see more dyno runs comparing pipes, carbs, reeds, cylinder years, and see the graphs, that would be some info, costly but some great info.
F Mitch Keller

Offline Buckeye513

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Elite Member
  • **********
  • Posts: 2493
  • Gender: Male
  • Location: Cincinnati OH

Offline Kylerj133

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Newbie
  • **
  • Posts: 9
Re: DCS-6 Proto Testing Dyno Time!
« Reply #35 on: April 14, 2014, 01:18:19 am »
Are these pipes all spoken for?? I want one!!

Offline Mitch Keller

  • Mitch Keller
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Administrator
  • Trail Blazer
  • *****
  • Posts: 799
  • Love The Smell Of 927 and Race Fuel In The Morning
  • Location: Riverside Ca
Re: DCS-6 Proto Testing Dyno Time!
« Reply #36 on: April 16, 2014, 12:19:17 pm »
Great News, Dave Kuskie just got his DCS-#5 LT500 Dynoed at Pro shop in Stanton Ca, just heard from John that he is hitting 68 HP and cant believe the midrage torque that the pipe has, Looking forward to Dave posting his Graphs soon!
Oh Q gonna hate when these pipes come out!
F Mitch Keller

Offline Motoman991

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Pro Member
  • ********
  • Posts: 915
  • Location: Cincinnati, Oh
Re: DCS-6 Proto Testing Dyno Time!
« Reply #37 on: April 16, 2014, 12:41:17 pm »
Awesome news!  Make sure he posts about his entire engine set up too.  I'm always curious to know about the power certain engine set ups produce.

Offline Mitch Keller

  • Mitch Keller
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Administrator
  • Trail Blazer
  • *****
  • Posts: 799
  • Love The Smell Of 927 and Race Fuel In The Morning
  • Location: Riverside Ca
Re: DCS-6 Proto Testing Dyno Time!
« Reply #38 on: April 16, 2014, 01:00:43 pm »
Ready for this,Dave has a Tudors play dune engine porting, No Air Filter box ( Alum Bracket), and only 41 pwk.
F Mitch Keller

Offline Q2W

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Forum Moderator
  • Elite Member
  • *********
  • Posts: 1386
  • Gender: Male
  • Location: NWA
Re: DCS-6 Proto Testing Dyno Time!
« Reply #39 on: April 16, 2014, 01:48:01 pm »
I have the exact same porting.

Very mild port job but makes really good power.

Offline Mitch Keller

  • Mitch Keller
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Administrator
  • Trail Blazer
  • *****
  • Posts: 799
  • Love The Smell Of 927 and Race Fuel In The Morning
  • Location: Riverside Ca
Re: DCS-6 Proto Testing Dyno Time!
« Reply #40 on: June 03, 2014, 01:01:40 pm »
Finishing up the silencers for the 8 pipes sold, with 2 avaialble
F Mitch Keller

Offline Dezsled

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Forum Moderator
  • Elite Member
  • *********
  • Posts: 2058
Re: DCS-6 Proto Testing Dyno Time!
« Reply #41 on: June 03, 2014, 05:03:13 pm »
Wow already 8 spoken for..

When do you think u take delivery?
87 HPR LT500
04 Roll LOBO II TRX250R
06 LTR450
87 LT500
85 & 86 LT250
86 & 87 TRX250R
07 & 09 Husqvarna TE450
00 CR125R

Offline LT Rookie

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Newbie
  • **
  • Posts: 2
Re: DCS-6 Proto Testing Dyno Time!
« Reply #42 on: July 01, 2014, 02:05:52 am »
Can I order a pipe? How do I place an order?

Offline Mitch Keller

  • Mitch Keller
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Administrator
  • Trail Blazer
  • *****
  • Posts: 799
  • Love The Smell Of 927 and Race Fuel In The Morning
  • Location: Riverside Ca
Re: DCS-6 Proto Testing Dyno Time!
« Reply #43 on: July 03, 2014, 08:45:15 am »
Pipes are $650 shipped in the USA, they are RAW, I am not plating, I am looking into it but please understand that these are coned pipes and will have tigged welds that will show if plated.
Shipping to other country's will require extra freight cost, plus any taxes and any duties to be included in shipping cost.
F Mitch Keller

Offline Mitch Keller

  • Mitch Keller
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Administrator
  • Trail Blazer
  • *****
  • Posts: 799
  • Love The Smell Of 927 and Race Fuel In The Morning
  • Location: Riverside Ca
Re: DCS-6 Proto Testing Dyno Time!
« Reply #44 on: August 22, 2014, 12:31:15 pm »
Even done the DCS 6's are getting detail, here is on of the few left that were Brushed )Pipe and Mid Section) some of the Silencers will be Polished.





F Mitch Keller

Offline Mitch Keller

  • Mitch Keller
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Administrator
  • Trail Blazer
  • *****
  • Posts: 799
  • Love The Smell Of 927 and Race Fuel In The Morning
  • Location: Riverside Ca
Re: DCS-6 Proto Testing Dyno Time!
« Reply #45 on: August 28, 2014, 04:06:23 pm »
A lil Brushed / Bluing looks nice
F Mitch Keller

Offline Nutswinger

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Newbie
  • **
  • Posts: 3
Re: DCS-6 Proto Testing Dyno Time!
« Reply #46 on: September 28, 2014, 08:20:43 pm »
HPR pipe makes more power, like the saying goes you get what you pay for. I will take a quality pipe and pay a few bucks more than a pipe that makes less power and made in a garage with guess work.  S~

I am not criticizing just stating my opinion. Flame suit on.

Offline Q2W

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Forum Moderator
  • Elite Member
  • *********
  • Posts: 1386
  • Gender: Male
  • Location: NWA
Re: DCS-6 Proto Testing Dyno Time!
« Reply #47 on: September 29, 2014, 07:20:48 am »
HPR pipe makes more power, like the saying goes you get what you pay for. I will take a quality pipe and pay a few bucks more than a pipe that makes less power and made in a garage with guess work.  S~

I am not criticizing just stating my opinion. Flame suit on.

Wow.  DCS was never made to compete with halls or Q's pipe.  Was for the budget builder that wanted better quality than the AAEN had to offer (and Power).   Testing results were just better than expected.  Garage build?  Do you even know who built this pipe?

Save the Shitty attitude for youtube and facebook, Cody.  I guess that is how you were raised, though.

Offline ZillaFreak

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Range Rover
  • *****
  • Posts: 503
Re: DCS-6 Proto Testing Dyno Time!
« Reply #48 on: September 29, 2014, 02:56:31 pm »
A few bucks more? Isn't the DCS like $400 less than a HPR? That isn't a few bucks.

Offline Mitch Keller

  • Mitch Keller
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Administrator
  • Trail Blazer
  • *****
  • Posts: 799
  • Love The Smell Of 927 and Race Fuel In The Morning
  • Location: Riverside Ca
Re: DCS-6 Proto Testing Dyno Time!
« Reply #49 on: September 29, 2014, 03:51:23 pm »
DCS 6 wasnt to offset the HPR19, it was to take away sales from the other guys in its performance, which is exactly what DCS-6 did, I  just talked to Jerry last week, I'm a bump on elephants azz guys, the guys wanting the "HPR package" know what they want and will get it. Q will have sales for those that want pretty, But FYI talks are in the works about maybe a DCS-7 batch being a stamped pipe and plated, still working on costing this will take a few months busy as hell at work these days.
F Mitch Keller

 

+- Suzuki Quadracer HQ Store Zone

http://www.suzukiquadracerhq.com/index.php?action=store