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POWDER COATING INFO NEEDED
« on: June 15, 2016, 11:16:10 pm »
I've been thinking hard about wether I should get my frame powder coated or leave it black since my brother painted it black at his body shop.  What I want to know,  what is the name of the blue for these old suzukis?  Im thinking about having a builder (Carl) take apart my bike, completely go through everything, while he's got the engine out, send the bike off to get powder coated blue like it should be.  I like the idea of having it painted so I could get more color options but I just can't bring myself to paint it.  How much does it cost?  How long does it take to powder coat frame and misc. parts? What should I be aware of?  What should I know before I do it?
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Re: POWDER COATING INFO NEEDED
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2016, 12:03:03 pm »
I used a color called RAL 5010 I believe. My frame, A-arms, hubs, and a few other odds and ends cost me about $300. It doesn't take more than a couple days assuming your powder coater isn't too busy. Most people that do powder coat for a living will do a good job of plugging up all of your bolt holes but you can certainly help by putting old bolts in holes. That way you don't have to worry about him missing any. You can also save your powder coater a bunch of time by bringing all of the components to him relatively clean. They don't like grease getting in to their shot blast media as they strip away the old paint.

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« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2016, 08:11:51 am »
also, put a bolt in with a washer where you plan on grounding your electrical.  This will prevent you from having grind these areas later to get a good ground.
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Re: POWDER COATING INFO NEEDED
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2016, 11:42:07 pm »
the eastwood / mirror blue is a dead match. but it wont get the whole frame done. i am taking mine to our local professional to do it some winter in the future.  he said it was going to be about 400 canadian/ so about 300 usd.
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« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2016, 07:34:23 am »
$300 to do just a frame?
The mirror blue is a basic powder $12/lb. Looks like you only need a single coat.

I had my frame  done on my old banshee. I paid $360 and this included them blasting, then stripping, then chemical prep of the metal, then 2 layers of color, then layer of clear. The powder was also $29/lb.
It would have only been $240 without the clearcoat. The clearcoat just adds more protection and makes it shinier.

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« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2016, 12:29:07 pm »
that is very interesting but im concerned that it takes an ego trip to get an answer out of you.  long live zillas....
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« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2016, 07:58:07 am »
Ego trip? Because I posted what I actually paid to have my frame done?

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« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2016, 10:52:30 am »
that is very interesting but im concerned that it takes an ego trip to get an answer out of you.  long live zillas....

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« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2016, 02:03:35 pm »
$250 - 300 is what I paid for my frame. RAL 5010 is really close to the original blue.

If you look in the zilla build pictures link in my signature, I have some comparisons between paints, powder and the original color.

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« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2016, 05:03:40 pm »
Thanks for everything guys.  I have a powder coater two towns away in ozark, mo. Im going to stop in and get a quote.  What all came powder coated from the factory besides the frame?  I have a rear rack that holds my Coleman cooler perfectly that I'm definitely having done with the frame.  Drinks for everybody I ride with, lol
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« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2016, 06:30:31 am »
I don't believe anything was powder coated from the factory. Just painted. But I have an '88 500 and I had the frame, foot pegs, wheel hubs, sprocket hub and rear brake hub all coated in RAL 5010 I believe. I did a few other odds and ends in blue as well. I had my A-arms and rear brake lever coated in a silver/gray color. And then I had my headlight bracket and front wheel spindles coated in gloss black. I got all of that done for about $300. If I was smart I would have coated the fender support brackets and steering stem in gloss black too while I was at it. Just remember to mask off certain areas where machined tolerances are critical (the front wheel spindles for example). I actually left my old bearings in the front wheel hubs until after the powder coating was done. Preparation will pay off for you when you go to reassemble everything.

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« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2016, 05:07:46 am »
I have never seen an ATV frame that is powder coat from the factory yet.

As for my frame, this is what the $360 bought.
It would be black in the shade, brownish in some light, then green in the light.





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Re: POWDER COATING INFO NEEDED
« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2016, 06:28:23 am »
old room mate of mine back in early 2000's had that exact powder.   Maybe a bit more purple.  Looks good.

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« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2016, 03:42:28 pm »
I had my frame, a arms, hubs, steer stem, bumpers, shock springs headlight frame, and other misc. parts all done for 175.00 here locally. it was 4 different colors also, white, yellow, black and blue

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« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2016, 09:56:29 pm »
I have never seen an ATV frame that is powder coat from the factory yet.

As for my frame, this is what the $360 bought.
It would be black in the shade, brownish in some light, then green in the light.







Is that a chameleon paint that changes color when you look at it from a different angle?
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« Reply #15 on: July 07, 2016, 04:13:27 am »
May have some pearl in it?I know automotive vehicles add pearl to the paint to give that effect but I knowledge zilch about powder coating.
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« Reply #16 on: July 07, 2016, 05:03:51 am »
It is a flip flop powder. https://www.powderbuythepound.com/Tropic-Black/

How they do it, they don't say but most likely it is metallics. They do say the colors would vary depending on how the powder was put on.


I had many of my small parts, carrier, all 4 hubs, linkage, and some other small things powdered gloss black with some green flakes. Those parts would be black but under sun light you could see the hint of green in them and some times the green would "sparkle".

There are many things you can do with powder to set your quad off. There are many flip flops, florescents, textures, etc.

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Re: POWDER COATING INFO NEEDED
« Reply #17 on: July 07, 2016, 05:57:58 am »
I seen a "black chrome" it was neat!

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« Reply #18 on: July 07, 2016, 06:28:23 am »
I seen a "black chrome" it was neat!

I plan on doing my new frame black chrome.

 

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