This is a question for you guys.
When is the best time to go in the Spring? Last couple of times we went to Little Sahara the sand was so rough it made riding not so enjoyable.
It really depends on the weather.
Late winter/early spring can get pretty windy and sculpt razorbacks on most dunes, but the minute the wind changes direction it rounds everything back out.
So it's basically a crap shoot until around spring break or after, where the wind subsides a bit.
Flipside...it's generally nicer weather before spring break, after spring break it's hotter.
Parts of the dunes don't ever develop razorbacks, and there are ways to ride the dunes with razorbacks that don't beat the hell out of you due to the dune's wavy geometry.
Razorbacks are great for jumps though, so it's not all that bad.
You're never going to find a big crowd at Kermit, not like LS, so tracks aren't really a problem.
In fact, most days it's only your own tracks that you have to drive through.
It's almost always smooth virgin sand, and there's some parts where nobody ever goes and I can show you how to get there.
On an average day there might be 10 quads, so you still have to watch out but not constantly worried that someone will plow straight into you at every turn.
The most I've ever seen there, probably less than 50 quads and no more than 5 rails, maybe 10 UTV's.
That was the busiest day I've seen so far out there.
Let me know when you plan on coming out, I'll meet up with you and give you the "grand" tour.
There's water holes and places to camp out in the middle of the dunes, tons of trails, good places to park, etc.
Might want to load a small fuel can on the grab bar, hybrids and zillas almost always hit reserve exploring out there.
I guess i got spoiled after riding at glamis. I miss smooth sand. At LS, there hasn't been a smooth spot ANYWHERE the last 3 times i went.
Didn't realize Kermit was so big. Sounds like a good time.
It's bigger than LS, but smaller than Glamis.
Not so much about the actual acreage, but the fact that Kermit has LOTS of trails mixed in with the dunes makes for a different ride every time.
Since there's hardly anyone out there, it also feels a lot bigger too.
There's a good drag strip there now (not maintained daily or anything, but it stays pretty smooth), and there's the pipeline which is similar to the sand highway with bigger dunes and not quite as many whoops.
The perimeter trail is about 17 miles long, and if you stop to dune along the way you can easily hit reserve.
Here's a comparison of LS to Kermit:
When we went to Waynoka a couple years ago, we went to Kermit a couple weeks after for memorial weekend- late May. I was surprised how many dang razorbacks there were all over the place. the thing about kermit is that its "sand hills", not dunes like there are at waynoka and certainly not like Glamis. there are some decent climbs, but nothing gnarly. just an observation. by all means though kermit is fun and lots of acreage!
thats sucks about waynoka, i noticed that last time we rode there that it was rough as
****. i dont know if Im getting too old, need better shocks, or what - but i remember as a kid in waynoka back in the 90s that it was awesome and i dont remember it being rough at all, even on busy weekends.....
West Tex offers a great tour guide service!! we had a good time and it was cool to meet him
Tex, yea little sahara has a lot of dunes like you have in that picture but they do have a section of bigger dunes that get as high as 80'.
i dont like to ride them though cause that's where the rails hang out and they dont give a damn about other people on quads. They know if they meet you at the top, they'll win.
Y'all let me know when you're all meeting up. I'll try my damnedest to get out there yea lol
How about today.
Oh you can't make it?
That sucks... :p
Ken...what's up man?
Where you been hiding out?
It really sucked that trip out, even your footprints had razorbacks LOL
I never took you guys out to the big dunes because when the little stuff is that bad, the big stuff is outright dangerous and not fun at all.
The big dunes get witches eyes and with the speed needed to crest them you don't have enough time to avoid them on the other side.
Since we had a mixed group of experienced and inexperienced riders I elected to stay clear of them.
We mostly rode through trails and the little stuff that usually doesn't get as bad due to wind blocks and vegetation.
The good thing is that even when they're rough, the bowls in the big dunes are still fun to carve out...just hard to get to.
If you want to know where they're at, I'll try to explain...
They're just south of the pipeline and northwest of where the drag strip and pay parking is at.
No good hill climbs like Glamis in Kermit, though a few are over 100ft tall, it's nothing compared to olds.
If you get out this way again, hopefully the winds will cooperate and we won't have to worry about the razorbacks.
Something else worth noting is that I now have access to a large area of numerous isolated dunes, somewhere in the vicinity of 80 square miles.
They're not much for sport quads, but for someone looking to just cruise around and explore on a UTV it's awesome.
I've found 67 arrowheads and flint artifacts dating all the way back to the Clovis people since last year.
Ken...what's up man?
Where you been hiding out?
It really sucked that trip out, even your footprints had razorbacks LOL
I never took you guys out to the big dunes because when the little stuff is that bad, the big stuff is outright dangerous and not fun at all.
The big dunes get witches eyes and with the speed needed to crest them you don't have enough time to avoid them on the other side.
Since we had a mixed group of experienced and inexperienced riders I elected to stay clear of them.
We mostly rode through trails and the little stuff that usually doesn't get as bad due to wind blocks and vegetation.
The good thing is that even when they're rough, the bowls in the big dunes are still fun to carve out...just hard to get to.
If you want to know where they're at, I'll try to explain...
They're just south of the pipeline and northwest of where the drag strip and pay parking is at.
No good hill climbs like Glamis in Kermit, though a few are over 100ft tall, it's nothing compared to olds.
Based upon my experiences I would say those pics you posted should be flipped. Waynoka with big ones and Kermit with little hills....
But if say there big dunes in kermit Well if that's the case, awesome. I have never seen big dunes at Kermit..... I went a few times in college when at tech and we rode a few times when you weren't there the last trip. That was the impression I got was no big dunes at Kermit. And the only drawback about kermit. If Kermit has big dunes then ill never bother going anywhere else again!!!
Well, anyone feel like ridding in Kermit this year? (Aside from west tx obviously !!)
...I should probably get my LTR to the shop pretty soon then, it's cutting out at full throttle like there's a clogged fuel filter or something.
It's just run so good since I bought it that I never bothered to learn how to troubleshoot anything on it LOL
How about a fall trip? A friend that rarely gets to ride in the sand wants to go to LS this spring.
...I should probably get my LTR to the shop pretty soon then, it's cutting out at full throttle like there's a clogged fuel filter or something.
It's just run so good since I bought it that I never bothered to learn how to troubleshoot anything on it LOL
Yeah, I hear ya on that. Had 2 good trouble free years from my 450r, now its just one f'ing thing after another!!
I'm down for whenever, but during the fall is my busy season.
Dunes are generally nice during the fall.
Think it might be my fuel filter causing the problems, I just have no idea where the stupid thing is.
The first bit of riding is trouble free, I can usually get a few good WOT passes without trouble.
After that, top end starts cutting out, and if I keep trying to give it throttle it just makes it worse.
Shut it off for a few minutes, but not long enough for it to cool down and I can get another few passes out of it.
Cruising around gives me no problems all day long, but out in the dunes it's kinda hard to maintain low throttle settings.
Sounds like coil or cdi, but who knows....
How about a fall trip? A friend that rarely gets to ride in the sand wants to go to LS this spring.
I'm definately interested in a fall trip! Everything should be together and ready to go. I talked to a few of my buddies here in OKC about it and it perked their interest as well!