I meant Hall himself. Certainly I don't expect Erbe to port a cylinder that his pipe is on better than Don Elmer could. I would like to see if someone could design a better port package, given the same parameters(drag-drag, dune-dune) than HPR with his pipe.  I've seen Jerry fix a fu@king MESS that Kevin Herr did to my cylinders. All I'm saying is do it once, do it RIGHT.