Thanks! Looks like a cool program. I wish I would have had it a couple months ago. I'm finishing up a stainless pipe for my zilla now. I did it by rolling long cones and "bologna" cutting smaller angled pieces out of them with an envetor blade. It took forever, and never comes out as good as when you do it with a proper flat layout, but I still think it was faster than doing a tapering elbow layout the old school way using triangulation.