So got ahold of Trinity and PSI yesterday. Neither are making pipes now, PSI said they haven't made a lt250 pipe in 20 years and they don't have the tooling anymore to do them. So both of them will need to be removed from the poll.
I've also been trying to get ahold of Alan at LED before I even started this thread but he doesn't answer his phone. Bill's phone seems to mess up more than it goes through but Ill keep trying.
There is also one more person... Klemm