There is a horrible amount of bump steer with the stock Zilla. I've heard of flipping the outside tie rod ball joints, changing the mounting arms for the ball joints, etc...
Well I thought I would throw up some measurements I made this summer of my front end. I have the Camber mod on my 500, but I wanted to know where to set my toe at, so I started checking to see just how bad it is.
Here are some of my measurements: 12 3/4" travel from full droop to fully compressed (no shocks). Initial measurements.... Measured from center to center of ribbed tire.
Quad only weight; Toe In set at 1/8 inch.
42 1/8" Front of tire
42 1/4" Rear of tire
Full Droop (no shocks)
38 3/8" Front of tire
41 1/8" Rear of tire
2 3/4" Toe In
Level A-Arms (no shocks)
44 5/16" Front of tire
43 3/16" Rear of tire
1 1/8" Toe Out
Full Compression (no shocks)
40 1/2" Front of tire
42 3/4" Rear of tire
2 1/4" To In
3 7/8" toe range!
When you cycle the suspension with no shocks the Toe travel looks like this:
/ \ Toe-in full drooped suspension
| | Toe 0 moving towards level a-arms
\ / Toe-out level a-arms
| | Toe 0 moving towards full compression
/ \ Toe-in fully compressed a-arms
So, I wanted to cut down on the amount of toe out, so I set my toe in to 5/8 (.625)" under quad weight this summer.
Anybody have a true fix for the bump steer? I would like the Zilla front end to be like my Long Travel KFX450 Houser setup that is on my wife's bike. It has almost no bump steer.
I played with flipping the ball joints, adding washers above and below the linkage arm, but never found a good sweet spot. Different stem mounting points? Different spindle mounts?
I should look at this again in the next few days again to see if I can reduce the toe out some more.
Any tips guys?