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Re: Whats performance like with the Trinity pipe?
« Reply #50 on: December 14, 2012, 08:59:06 am »
your piston my be slapping against the walls of the cylinder if bore is out
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Re: Whats performance like with the Trinity pipe?
« Reply #51 on: December 14, 2012, 09:24:12 am »
In the snowmobile world been some talk of engine internals rusting after sitting long periods when synthetic 2 stroke oil has been used.Not sure of the reason but just what some builders have reported.
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Re: Whats performance like with the Trinity pipe?
« Reply #52 on: December 14, 2012, 09:33:25 am »
If I know my bike is going to sit for awhile. I will take some fogging oil and open the slide on the carb and spray through the throat of the carb to the reed cage and take the plug out and spray in the cyl with it at tdc and bdc than kick it over a few times to get everything coated. Works very very well for alky applications. Do not see why it would not for gas.

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Re: Whats performance like with the Trinity pipe?
« Reply #53 on: December 14, 2012, 07:41:51 pm »
your piston my be slapping against the walls of the cylinder if bore is out

Its not, took measurements on it all today.

Crank bearings are toast though.  Doing new crank bearings, output shaft seal, base gasket, clutch gasket, connecting rod & pin/bearings.  Piston and bore are not out of round and are useable as per my mechanic.  It was a brand new piston and rings when the motor was rebuilt and it only had about half an hour on it before it was put in storage.  It was only run for 15 minutes or so by me.  Pretty much all he does is build race motors and he has been doing it for about 30 years, so I trust his judgement.  He built my pit bike motor and I have run it HARD for close to 3 years now.  Still starts first or second kick even when it has sat for months. 

Next year I am going to do a new top end.  I will take some pictures of the cylinder now that we have cleaned it up.

I plan to continue being an active member on here so as I rack up on the hours on it, we will see if his judgement about being able to use the piston & bore was correct or not lol...

If I know my bike is going to sit for awhile. I will take some fogging oil and open the slide on the carb and spray through the throat of the carb to the reed cage and take the plug out and spray in the cyl with it at tdc and bdc than kick it over a few times to get everything coated. Works very very well for alky applications. Do not see why it would not for gas.

Agreed.  i always properly "summerize" my snowmobile and "winterize" all my warm weather vehicles. 

While the guy I bought it from had pretty good taste in updgrades and parts, he was not very mechanically inclined.  He paid 900 bucks for what we now know was a crap motor build, and then didnt correctly prep it for long term storage and didnt ride it for over a year...

But I paid $3000 for it so after the motor is done right, it will still have been a hell of a good buy in my opinion. 


So I just picked up a pair of these.  Anybody else have a set of these metal zilla heel guards?  I have only seen them online once or twice in all the years I have searched for zilla parts...

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Re: Whats performance like with the Trinity pipe?
« Reply #54 on: December 14, 2012, 07:46:57 pm »
I think those are for the 250

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Re: Whats performance like with the Trinity pipe?
« Reply #55 on: December 14, 2012, 08:04:03 pm »
I think those are for the 250

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Re: Whats performance like with the Trinity pipe?
« Reply #56 on: December 14, 2012, 08:21:27 pm »
Yeah, those are off a 91-92 LT250r..... Zillas never had heel guards....

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Re: Whats performance like with the Trinity pipe?
« Reply #57 on: December 15, 2012, 08:02:05 am »
Yeah, those are off a 91-92 LT250r..... Zillas never had heel guards....

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Re: Whats performance like with the Trinity pipe?
« Reply #58 on: December 15, 2012, 11:09:33 am »
we'll see if they fit, if not ill return them
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Re: Whats performance like with the Trinity pipe?
« Reply #59 on: December 15, 2012, 03:20:17 pm »
yeah 250 foot gaurds, not for a zilla
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Re: Whats performance like with the Trinity pipe?
« Reply #60 on: December 17, 2012, 09:17:03 am »
yeah 250 foot gaurds, not for a zilla

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Re: Whats performance like with the Trinity pipe?
« Reply #61 on: December 17, 2012, 10:36:19 am »
I picked up Silicone Radiator hoses from Roose Motorsports off ebay, which i then found out is based out of the next town over from me.  I met the guys there in person yesterday when I picked up my order (rather than paying for shipping).  Really great guys.  Also included some samples of their different colors so I can see for future applications.  If anybody is looking for hoses let me know, they have a really high quality product.  I plan to add them to my Subaru, CR500, and RM250 in the not too distant future. 










While I am waiting for my motor to be done, I am also doing a few other odds and ends on the bike.  I am planning to wire in a 12v DC regulator/rectifier so I can use LEDs and will then be mounting an 04-06 R1 tail light with a smoked lense.  Welding up a custom bracket that I will mount off the bolts for the seat latch mechanism.  Will get longer bolts of the same thread and then can just add nuts to the bottom side to mount the bracket.  I measured it out and it should fit right there behind the airbox quite nicely.  Also wiring in a Hydraulic brake sensor switch to engage the brake light off the rear brake pedal action. 

Already polished up the carb, shift lever, and case saver.  Thinking of also doing the cover/lid on the throttle assembly and front brake reservoir. 


So I saw that there is an aluminum kick starter for our bikes on ebay for sale.  Anybody have any experience with it?  Would look nice to have and polish up.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/500-LT500-LT500R-QUADRACER-QUADZILLA-KICK-START-LEVER-/130601879141?pt=Motors_ATV_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1e687a8665&vxp=mtr

I also ordered a-arm and belly skid plates from PRM the other day.  With the fresh powder coating on the frame and a-arms i figure it is better to protect them before they get marred up.  I got the thinner aluminum stock from the two choices.  I am not planning on dragging it over rocks like I do with my 4x4 quad so I didnt see the need to spend the extra money and bolt on the extra weight. 

And I got half way through doing my steel braided brake line kit up front (the previous owner bought but never installed.



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Re: Whats performance like with the Trinity pipe?
« Reply #62 on: December 17, 2012, 02:04:05 pm »
That kick starter is not for the 500s.

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Re: Whats performance like with the Trinity pipe?
« Reply #63 on: December 17, 2012, 06:58:24 pm »
That kick starter is not for the 500s.

lot of mislabeled stuff eh...
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Re: Whats performance like with the Trinity pipe?
« Reply #64 on: December 17, 2012, 08:06:43 pm »
It's called Fleabay for a reason!! Buyer beware!!  <1>
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Re: Whats performance like with the Trinity pipe?
« Reply #65 on: December 17, 2012, 10:18:13 pm »
It's called Fleabay for a reason!! Buyer beware!!  <1>
Agreed. Never heard of an aftermarker kicker for either LT?

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Re: Whats performance like with the Trinity pipe?
« Reply #66 on: December 18, 2012, 01:57:05 am »
I'd stay away from that thing...just imagine that thin aluminum breaking off when the 500 kicks back and cuts your leg clean off.
Or whatever, I dunno.  I've heard bad things about them LOL

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Re: Whats performance like with the Trinity pipe?
« Reply #67 on: December 18, 2012, 06:34:03 am »
the kicker will not work on your zilla, it will fit. but when you swing it out to kick your foot will
hit the fender, look at the arch on it. it puts the kicker way to far out there.
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Re: Whats performance like with the Trinity pipe?
« Reply #68 on: December 20, 2012, 10:51:17 am »
added steel braided brake lines up front and silicone vent hoses for the coolant overflow tank...






going to be installing an R1 LED tail light



just pocked up crank bearings so motor should be done by friday.

going to be mounting the 12v regulator/rectifier on the back sode of the ignition coil with nylon spacers and extended bolts

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Re: Whats performance like with the Trinity pipe?
« Reply #69 on: December 20, 2012, 11:18:55 am »
regulator/rectifier mounted!





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Re: Whats performance like with the Trinity pipe?
« Reply #70 on: December 20, 2012, 08:58:39 pm »
got the tail light mounted







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Re: Whats performance like with the Trinity pipe?
« Reply #71 on: December 31, 2012, 10:56:17 pm »
wiring is done!  motor will be done tomorrow hopefully.  new crank bearings, connecting rod amd bearings, output seal, clutch gasket, and base gasket

added battery, voltage regulator/rectifier, R1 LED tail/brake, dual 35w halogen headlights, and blue led bar above radiator. 

ran all wires through frame into airbox for clean look, loomed all the wires, steel braided front brake lines,
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Re: Whats performance like with the Trinity pipe?
« Reply #72 on: January 01, 2013, 07:04:10 pm »
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Re: Whats performance like with the Trinity pipe?
« Reply #73 on: January 01, 2013, 08:41:35 pm »
Holy crap that's a lot of wiring for an LT...
Looks great bro!

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Re: Whats performance like with the Trinity pipe?
« Reply #74 on: January 02, 2013, 05:08:27 pm »
Holy crap that's a lot of wiring for an LT...
Looks great bro!

Thanks!  Wiring is one of my "specialties" if I were to try and say that I have one lol. 

It all started because after mounting the new headlights on the bars, there was no room for the giant stock key assembly.  I already had a 4 wire key from my 2001 Yamaha Wolverine 350; because I lost the key for it, looked everywhere and finally broke down and purchased a new key and tumbler/assembly a few months later.  Of course after months of looking, and then finally installing the new key system in the Yamaha, I found the key that went with the old assembly like 12 hours after I had swapped in the new unit.  At that point, I just decided to leave the new key on the Wolverine and save the old one for if the new one died, or I needed a key setup for another project such as this.           

When the previous owner had the whole frame powder coated, he utilized a different subframe that had no mount for the stock tail light.  I saw the wiring harness was hacked together, and I needed to make a custom mount for a tail light anyhow, so I said screw it, lets do an R1 LED tail.  I already had a 12v regulator/rectifier hanging around that I used to use on my CR500 Supermoto (but with this most recent rebuild on that I opted to go back to AC and to get rid of turn signals and an LED tail.  The vibration on the CR500 which is not counterbalanced like the LT500 puts the LT to shame when it comes to the severity of the vibration.)

At that point I thought, if I am going to DC current and im rebuilding the wiring harness from scratch anyhow, now is as good a time as any to add a battery into the system...

So basically it started out small and one thing led to another.  Now that its all done I am happy I made the extra effort.  I plan on keeping the zilla for a LONG time and it looks like the motor will be done by the end of the week.

I used all waterproof solder/heat shrink wire connectors, then covered with heat shrink tape, and covered that with electrical tape, so it is all wrapped up snug as a bug in a rug.  If I ever do have to to take apart or change things, they all have connectors on them rather than permanently attached to each other so after taking off the electrical tape/heat shrink tape, I can unplug and dismantle/reattach the entire wiring system without a whole lot of trouble. 

I was always taught if your going to do something, you might as well do it right the first time.  The battery seems to hold quite a bit of juice too.  I have had the headlights on over a few times for a total of 10 or 15 minutes doing testing and showing friends/family my handywork and the battery is still powering the headlights at the same brightness as when I first installed it.

I will get more pictures/videos when I get the motor back in it and running. 

Also, I ran the wiring for the brake light from the R1 tail, I just need to find one of those banjo bolt brake sensors with the right pitch for the front brake master cylinder.  Once I get it, I just have to attach the positive and negative wires to it (that are already there) and I will have a brake light off the front brake!  I was going to do the rear brake, but since I am more likely to always hit the front brake than the rear, and I tucked all the wiring inside the frame that goes back that direction anyhow, the front brake is a better choice for said switch.


Whats really cool is I was able to re-use a lot of the stock wiring so based off the wiring diagram, most of the wire colors still match up to what they run to.  The only wires that are not matching color are the additional parts (from the regulator rectifier to the battery, from the battery back to the key, and from the key back into the Yellow/Red wire that sends power up into the handlebar controls for the lights. 



Does anybody know what amperage draw I should expect from two 35watt halogen bulbs?  I put an in-line fuse on the positive just as it leaves the battery and goes out to power the machine accessories.  Started with a 15 amp fuse....
1989 Quadzilla
1999 RM250
1990 CR500 (plated supermoto)
2008 BMW F800ST
1998 Yamaha RT180
2005 KLX110 (full mod 143cc)
2001 Yamaha Wolverine 350 4x4
2003 SkiDoo MX-Z Rev 800
1997 SeaDoo Speedster (jetboat)
1912 Harley Davidson (original Patina still runs)

 

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