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#125 Reply
Posted by
Buckeye513
on 20 May, 2013 18:17
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Got the steering stem and tie rods on tonight not sure if I have them on right or not but it turns. How the hell do you align the front end with these American Star racing tie rods? Pictures coming soon.
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#126 Reply
Posted by
Buckeye513
on 20 May, 2013 18:49
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And here's me pushing my bum cart!
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#127 Reply
Posted by
Dezsled
on 20 May, 2013 19:31
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Tie rods look sweet, heims are trick
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#128 Reply
Posted by
Buckeye513
on 20 May, 2013 19:38
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Do they look like I got them mounted right? Also any idea how to align the front end or should I wait to dial them in for when its on its tires?
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#129 Reply
Posted by
Dezsled
on 20 May, 2013 20:30
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Yeah from what I can see the bottom 'mis alignment' spacer is right
I waited to get the ride height set then adjust tie rods, someone else might have a better suggestion.
In my experience if your not able to use a cotter key, like on your tie rod nuts, I'd use blue (serviceable) locktite.
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#130 Reply
Posted by
Buckeye513
on 20 May, 2013 20:34
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What about doing the bump steer mod? Think with these tie rods it's necessary?
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#131 Reply
Posted by
Dezsled
on 20 May, 2013 20:37
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I went with the z400 spindles so I'm not able to answer that...
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#132 Reply
Posted by
JayTater
on 21 May, 2013 04:58
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Hahaha!! Buck!! I'm with the Tampa One Hour/Ben Franklin office! Small world. Zilla is coming together well!
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#133 Reply
Posted by
Buckeye513
on 21 May, 2013 05:20
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No kidding, thanks man I'm on the home stretch can't wait to fire it up for the first time.
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#134 Reply
Posted by
Buckeye513
on 22 May, 2013 11:41
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Just ordered Jerry's 9 plate Barnett clutch setup. Getting a new clutch hub, 85-86 250r clutch springs, clutch cable and lever from Jason. I'm t minus two weeks roughly away from having everything together and doing the first fire if all goes to plan and nothing major comes up.
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#135 Reply
Posted by
Buckeye513
on 24 May, 2013 19:16
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Got the rear axle and carrier installed hubs aren't on they're just slid on for the picture. Also installed the front bumper.
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#136 Reply
Posted by
Dezsled
on 24 May, 2013 19:20
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Right on dude, it's almost a roller! Bumper looks killer
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#137 Reply
Posted by
Buckeye513
on 25 May, 2013 07:38
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So last night I remounted my steering stem with the freshly painted radiator mount. Something I'm noticing is its pretty difficult to turn. Is this just because the suspension is at full drop and my tie rods are basically just mocked up and tightened down or should I be worried something is binding up?
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Did u use the stock axle the clip on axel is on the brreak side?
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#139 Reply
Posted by
Buckeye513
on 25 May, 2013 09:58
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That question doesn't make any sense.
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#140 Reply
Posted by
MD2smoker
on 25 May, 2013 10:01
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On the steering binding.. Did you ever do the bump steer mod? I didnt see if you had completed it or not. I just flipped the outer tie rod ends to the underside of the spindles and reset my toe. Also did you get the stem pc'd? It might be tight at the stem clamp area. I notice my steering was a lil tight before i reset my toe and got my bike sittin down with weight on it.
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#141 Reply
Posted by
Buckeye513
on 25 May, 2013 12:02
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I haven't done the bump steer mod yet because I have ASR pro x tie rods and I'm not sure if I'll need to do it or not. But I'm pretty sure it's just tight cause there's no weight on it. I didn't powder coat my stem but now that I think about it I didn't grease the bottom bushing and I think I over tightened it.
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#142 Reply
Posted by
Buckeye513
on 25 May, 2013 12:05
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Thanks kennerz I'll double check that. I have to unmount the shock and swinger to put the chain buffer on that I forgot to do.
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#143 Reply
Posted by
MD2smoker
on 25 May, 2013 12:24
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The aftermarket tie rods wont change the geometry of the front suspension unless there is some kind of offset built into the tie rod ends. The easy way to check is to see if the tie rods are parallel to the lower a arms. I compared my zilla to my yfz when i did mine. I try to get some pics posted to show you what im talking about. I just have to hobble my ass down to the shed to look. I was supposed to be riding all weekend but i fell 16 feet onto concrete and shattered my ankle last week. Looks like ill be on here a lot for the next month or two. Lol
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#144 Reply
Posted by
Buckeye513
on 25 May, 2013 13:08
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Nice I'll probably do the bump steer once I get it on 4 wheels and adjust the alignment of the front end. There's a video I think chevyvetter did on YouTube about correcting the bump steer and what you're after I watched way back when I was in tear down mode. I'll have to revisit that video to try and keep your crippled ass planted lol. Sorry to hear about your ankle that sucks my brother shattered his 4 summers ago and wa down till about September after 3 surgeries a 2 plates and 7 screws.
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#145 Reply
Posted by
MD2smoker
on 25 May, 2013 14:39
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Yeah i got 6 screws and one plate now. This was supposed to be my first real ride on my 500 since i bought it. Looks like late july now. Your builds lookin good! Just keep at the details and youll be real happy with the end result.
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#146 Reply
Posted by
Buckeye513
on 25 May, 2013 17:15
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That sucks dude. Yeah I'm not gonna be happy with this build and will be tearing it back down next winter to change some things. My ultimate plan is to have a different cylinder, head and piston and a separate rear end setup complete swing arm shock/strut jj&a axle and drag tires. That way I can have a drag setup and a trail setup and its as easy as swapping cylinder, head and piston and rear end to have a completely different bike basically.
It's that or I find a rolling yfz450 or ltr450 or trx450 and swap in a lt500 kx500 or cr500 engine and have a trail bike hybrid and make my zilla a designated drag only bike.
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#147 Reply
Posted by
Buckeye513
on 25 May, 2013 18:12
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Just to verify the two holes on the cushion lever eccentric kennerz was talking about should be on the bottom or toward the ground like pictured here in the manual right? Because this is how I had it mounted but I'm remounting it because I left the chain buffer off and I'm working on it right now so someone please respond quick! Lol
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#148 Reply
Posted by
Dezsled
on 25 May, 2013 18:40
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I think you need to rotate the shock mount 180* so it's closer to the ground....the pic shows it in the up position
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#149 Reply
Posted by
Buckeye513
on 25 May, 2013 18:54
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Thanks kennerz that's how I had it mounted the problem though was I had the two cushion lever mounting bolts in from the wrong damn side so the bolts were hanging up on the swing arm which is why it looks jacked up in the pictures. I under stand what you're saying though and that's how I had it cause I had a hell of a time getting it to mount up.
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