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Re: i am wondering about the whole pump gas situation
« on: September 06, 2013, 07:43:14 am »
As i have been  reading,searching  for all the information i can find about this quad and its problems,strong points,unique character. I am really curious about the 93 or 110 gas situation. What i want to know is why cant i run 93 pump mixed 32:1 and have to re-jet every time i go to get more gas? i  read that the jetting will be off because of the ethanol in the gas but wouldnt you have to do that with 110 too? and if  this is a problem  what mods are there out there that people do to the carbs in order to run 93 pump  32:1 and not have to mix  or run higher octane?

The reason for that is because the ethanol content in pump gas varies widely from station to station and load to load.
It may contain 10%, it may contain none, or a percentage of that...but they're under no obligation to tell you, nor do they even know.
Since ethanol has a different stoichiometric ratio than gasoline, the stoichiometric ratio of the gas you're burning changes too.
When the stoichiometric ratio changes, you can melt pistons, overheat, induce detonation, etc.
110, or any race fuel for that matter, is CONSISTENT.
The difference is that companies like VP and Sunoco that charge ridiculous prices for their fuels have a reputation to uphold and their fuel quality has to reflect that.
If it was just a matter of getting lots and lots of octane ratings, they'd just dump a ton of tetraethyl lead into pump gas...but that's not why competitive teams use race fuels.
They use it because they can tune to the ragged edge of melting a piston, and know that future purchases will still be the same as before.

So....the only SAFE way to run pump gas with a stock head is by checking jetting every time you get new fuel.
Want to run any kind of **** gas from wherever?
Have you engine designed for it and don't expect lots of hp.
Or, run your engine without knowing for sure and gamble your engine's health.
You can't have both.
It would be awesome if you ran 93 octane for 100hrs before you needed a new top, but it would really suck if it only lasted a few weekends.
Factor the cost of a new top end and the extra cost of fuel and see if you think it's worth it to take a chance...it's your quad, not mine.

Nothing special needs to be done to the carb in order to run pump gas, other than jetting it, which is needed from time to time anyway.
It's only when you start getting into boring carbs for big engines and running alky before anything needs to be done to it.

The difference between 87 and 88+ a-arms is that the 87 has a single large pivot tube on the upper arm connecting it to the frame, while the 88+ has two smaller ends like what you see on most quads.
Therefore, one bolt holds the a-arm to the frame with the 87, and two bolts hold it on with the 88+

 

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