Alright they are ordered. Jeff is a awesome guy to talk to. So he is also building a 620cc big bore kit for the 500 that sounds pretty sweet. I called for reeds and ended up having a hour long conversation which was well worth it. Thanks for reminding me lt250rwv. He is out of reeds and has some coming in next week. Jeff has his VF2 reeds made with the correct tension for ATV's so they dont break I guess the originals were set up for motocross and broke a lot.