Author Topic: Front Shocks (Read 1537 times)

QuadRacerZ · « **on:** March 04, 2015, 09:53:37 pm »

So Originally I was going to buy a nearly new pair of Works Shocks from someone I know for my 1992 LT250R, But he decided to back out and keep them last minute.

I have a friend that when his stock YFZ450 front Shocks Blew... (Rides Hard). He decided to try out RFY Shocks... He heard mixed reviews and has his own shop. So he rebuilt the shocks before installing them. He has been using them for a year and highly recommends them... With the right reconstruction that is.

I also tried the same thing... Bought the aftermarket RFY YFZ450 front shocks and had him rebuilt them before I installed them. I just installed them today and my god its a huge difference.

Im sure they arent that great stock, but for a total of $150 for shocks that look great and work great... I really cant complain, plus if I ever do have a problem with them... Im lucky that my friend will rebuild them for around $40...

(If anyone was wondering... The reservoirs on these shocks really do work)

So dispite all the nay saying... For the price I couldn't be happier. And yes I have ridden quads with Works shocks and Elka's... Whether you choose to believe it or not... What I am working with now is very comparable. Cant beat the price. IMO.

Oh and these shocks do bolt right up... Only thing is I had to add 2 washers on each side at the bottom of the eye. Even with being 3/4 bigger than stock shocks... It really wasnt a problem because they are adjustable.

92lt250wannabe · « **Reply #1 on:** March 05, 2015, 09:44:01 pm »

Post some pics of your quad setup.

QuadRacerZ · « **Reply #2 on:** March 06, 2015, 08:27:22 am »

With The Plastic piece where my custom headlight configuration is... Being missing until I get the piece i bought and the Ugly stock half worn off powder coat A Arms... It All Looks Good besides that. I Will get some pics today though.

Been putting off installing my Rear Lonestar axle until I get A Arms.

Not to mention my Stock A Arms are slightly bent. I have a lot of bumpsteer right now.

Realistically... I may not have time to get pics of it today while there is good light out, but I will definitely have some pics up by sunday.

QuadRacerZ · « **Reply #3 on:** March 06, 2015, 09:21:25 am »

QuadRacerZ · « **Reply #4 on:** March 06, 2015, 09:30:53 am »

Took these real quick... Bike is a little dirty from my short ride yesterday.

I cant decide on tires or what I like better... Nerf Bars or Heel Guards

Nekrofilliak · « **Reply #5 on:** March 06, 2015, 02:34:42 pm »

Hi, The shock length are adjustable ?

Q2W · « **Reply #6 on:** March 06, 2015, 03:32:39 pm »

The camber of the front tires looks really bad.

I'm not that familiar with the 250's. Are the longer shocks adding to the problem or is that how they always were?

92lt250wannabe · « **Reply #7 on:** March 06, 2015, 08:39:48 pm »

The camber might be due to the a arms being bent? I had tons of bump steer when my frame was bent. Those shocks do look like they r extending the arms a bit.

Patman13mia · « **Reply #8 on:** March 06, 2015, 10:08:47 pm »

Lets see a photo head on to see how the camber actually looks

92lt250wannabe · « **Reply #9 on:** March 07, 2015, 08:23:41 am »

That would be helpful also

QuadRacerZ · « **Reply #10 on:** March 07, 2015, 08:55:02 am »

Believe me... Its not good. And they looked the same with the stock shocks. And to answer the question... no the length is obviously not adjustable... But the softness is... With me weighing 175 its not hard at all to get the shocks to fit without force, and still rides well... That is until I try to steer or hit a bump. Main reason why I have posted a wanted add in every forum I can find online to find A Arms. I will post a front pic here shortly. Believe me. Its not pretty lol.

I originally was concerned that the frame itself was bent when I bought the bike. But, when I took it all apart It was obvious that the A Arms were and the frame was not.

QuadRacerZ · « **Reply #11 on:** March 07, 2015, 09:23:40 am »

Just took a ton of pictures but I cant seem to get one that shows how bad the camber is. But for a brief explanation... When my handle bars are completely straight (they werent quite in those pictures)... my front left tire is straight. The front right one turns inwards about an inch. Also, I couldnt notice this with the old shocks but with the new. The shock itself on the front right side is 1/8th of an inch closer to the Upper A Arm Bolt.

Also just noticed that whoever did this stupid stripe job on the plastics before I had it... Did not get it centered at all. If I didnt like the shave job I would probably discard the pastics all together.

92lt250wannabe · « **Reply #12 on:** March 07, 2015, 09:36:13 am »

Sounds like your toe in is not adjusted properly. If one is completly straight and the other tire is pointed inward, the tie rod needs to be adjusted to bring that tire back out. There should be 1/4 inch of toe in.

QuadRacerZ · « **Reply #13 on:** March 07, 2015, 10:02:37 am »

That is part of the problem... But not the biggest. Way I see it is. I may as well not waste time trying to fix the old ones. When its obvious I need new A Arms and Tie Rods. When you get up close and look at the A Arms. Its easy to tell they are bent.

Patman13mia · « **Reply #14 on:** March 07, 2015, 04:02:45 pm »

Post a photo and we could see

92lt250wannabe · « **Reply #15 on:** March 07, 2015, 07:59:11 pm »

Maybe just getting a good set of stock a arms would be the cheapest and best bet for the time being. You should find a set for a great price.

QuadRacerZ · « **Reply #16 on:** March 08, 2015, 10:32:52 am »

To be completely Honest. I dont want to go cheap when it comes to A Arms. I have felt the difference alone with stock LT250R A Arms and aftermarket. Could I fix the original A Arms? Possibly. Could I buy different stock A Arms for cheap? Yes. But again... Why waste money on something I am going to discard at the first possible chance? For now... I will deal with the bump steer and bent stock A Arms. I just cant justify spending money on something I will toss, or waste time on something that will slightly benefit my riding experience. This post was simply about shocks. I know all of my front geometry problems and know that I could enhance the way they are now. But, I will personally not feel comfortable and satisfied until I get what my bike needs most. Thanks for the input though. I really do appreciate it.

Plus.. I already have a +2 lonestar axle. It needs +2 front A Arms for the experience to be desirable. I have ridden quads with rear axles wider than the front A Arms and it feels similar to riding a 3 Wheeler. And no offense to anyone out there that still rides one. But, I do not enjoy the ride at all.

QuadRacerZ · « **Reply #17 on:** March 09, 2015, 10:43:20 pm »

So... I did end up adjusting my Tie Rods and Toe in and it did help slightly... But, Still not the difference Im looking for. Will post before and after pics tomorrow.

ZillaFreak · « **Reply #18 on:** March 10, 2015, 09:48:40 am »

So you wont go cheap on your a-arms, but you will buy garbage shocks? FFS

And those chinese shocks do not compete with Elkas.

QuadRacerZ · « **Reply #19 on:** March 12, 2015, 07:43:16 am »

Say what you will, but I have compared the 2 after mine are rebuilt and neither rider could notice the difference.

No Matter what anyone says. I cant justify spending around a thousand dollars. Give or take for some springs, gas and straight metal.

92lt250wannabe · « **Reply #20 on:** March 12, 2015, 01:23:30 pm »

There is so much engineering and testing done on suspension it's rediculous. So many variables play into how the shock all works with your a arm setup, rider weight, spring weights, dampening, preload, even the damn oil weight and viscosity play a major role in how the shocks are going to act and perform. I have had some pretty extensive conversations with Piere the engineer with works performance. And if you think socks are some gas oil and metal your nuts.

Good luck with your shocks.

ZillaFreak · « **Reply #21 on:** March 13, 2015, 04:54:43 am »

But you can justify spending lots of money on just some steel and weld (a-arms)?
FFS

QuadRacerZ · « **Reply #22 on:** March 13, 2015, 08:53:05 am »

Yes... Yes, I can.

ZillaFreak · « **Reply #23 on:** March 13, 2015, 09:35:02 am »

There is a reason you think these shocks are so great, you have no clue.
The fact you think a shock is just gas, springs, and straight metal is funny.
You do know shocks have valves right, also good shocks have oil in them. The valves and oil play a huge role in how the shock works.

But instead of spending your money on gas, oil, springs, valves, some metal, you rather spend more on just straight metal and some welding.

FFS you are stupid.

Fateofnorns · « **Reply #24 on:** March 13, 2015, 10:16:56 am »

Nah you're right.

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