How well is fuel flowing into your carb?

Im still leaning towards a clutch side crank seal but that's how mine sounded the one time I forgot to turn the fuel on. Good lord did that scare me hearing that fresh engine lean out like that...

Yea drain the coolant and oil, pull the kicker, make note of how your clutch pull and all looked before you take it apart. Take pictures with your phone, it helps a LOT! Especially for your first time.

Pull the cover off, then look at the crank and look along it into the case. You'll see the black rubber (it is rubber right y'all?) seal. If it's protruding out or anything then it's blown. They can also come apart at the lip and leak. You can try mixing some soap and water in a spray bottle and spraying it around it then roll the motor over slowly and watch for bubbles. That might work but I'm not 100% sure. About the only way I could think of doing it without having to pull the crank nut and gears off.

As for the metal flakes in the oil: it's more than likely clutch "dust". It'll look like aluminum and be kinda like a paste. But again that's just going from my experience with my first LT. I'm no expert,, I've only had mine together for like a year and a half or two years.

Clutch basket looks pretty grooved and the piece that comes through the pressure plate (forget its name) looks to have some chewed up teeth.

impact will take it off, or you need a clutch removal tool, if you have any extra clutch plates and fibers you can make your own, just weld them together and put handle on it, or you can use a strap wrench, craftsman makes a rubber one that worked for me before.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_sacat=0&_from=R40&_nkw=lt250+clutch+tool&_sop=15

Dimsi, yep, I saw that. the second time I looked at the book 

I ended up using the strap wrench and got everything off, but that stud came off with the bolt that was threaded in it. So now that is also going to need to be replaced as well.

I know everyone is going to yell at me, but...... I took into the shop this morning mainly because I'm not going to have time to work on it and I dont want all those internal parts getting rusted by sitting out. So we are going to hear from a very reliable shop that also ONLY charges me for parts whats wrong with it as well as what I'm actually working with bore, and porting wise since the prevous owner swapped in an 86 motor into the 85 frame I'm assuming they did not keep it stock. (on account that I would not)

so with that being said I'm either looking at a MONSTER LT or a busted A** parts motor.

if you are good friends with the shop you sould see about being there when they start jetting bike. maybe you might learn something.
and it will help you next time you need to jet bike, like when it warms up you will need to jet again.

almost sounds like its running out of fuel, have you tried it on reserve, how much fuel is in tank.

Shoot, that's cheap! Buy the dang thing! Or give us the number lol

Grkguy, I think that is a very high possibility but the way that it was running tells me that there is something else that's wrong to.

All American, I was debating on picking it up to part out. But I don't how what kind of shape everything is in, and havent looked into it more.

You have a very good point. now that I think of it I'm not 100% on what year its from. it might be an 87 which would be pretty nice. I could even use it as a learning project to strip apart just to get more familar with these motors.

Now you have me convinced to spend even more money, I dont think my wife is going to like that I signed up on this forum if I keep finding reasons to spend money lol.

I'll get some pictures and info of it when I go to pick up the LT.

So just to give you guys a quick update, I got word from the shop and my motor is all kinds of jacked up. the crank is free but is very loose with lots of play, and the wrist pin came off on one side and has been wearing on the cylinder. fix from the shop is to do a complete rebuild which for them to do will run me ballpark $1200+ the same shop does have a LT motor which needs significant transmission work at least, so I might be able to frankenstein a working motor together cheaper then that, but I'm not sure yet. From the sounds of it I can rebuild it for more then another bike, scrap it, or try to do a rebuild myself and save some $$$ any opinions?

I'd but the $150.00 engine then tear it down and see where I was.  It's a gamble but you may end up with a good crank and a top end that's in better shape.

I was thinking about that to. I talked to the shop owner and he actually said that he would tear into the other motor to see if any of the parts could be used with my motor. He said that he would be able to tell me in two days or so.

Now that I'm doneish freaking out about this thing grenading on me. I figure that I will bring mine home tomorrow and tear it down while I wait for him to tell me about that other motor. That way I actually have an idea on what will need to be replaced. Apparently the flywheel was loose and ground a little bit into the Case cover, the crank moved forward, back as well as up and down. The piston is toast and it will need a bore hopefully leaving enough cylinder wall, that's all he could tell me about it without splitting the case.

Are there any other things that are probably going to be wrong or that I should replace anyway?

I REALLY appreciate the help with this task, I am pretty intimidated about doing a rebuild on it, I've worked on car/truck engines all my life but I have nerve tore into a bike motor. So it will be a learning experience.

I know that its near impossible to know for sure without first knowing about that second motor and what all is wrong with my current one but any idea what I would be looking at price wise for the whole overhaul?

And honestly since u guys have functional bikes do u think that they are worth the time and cash that I will be putting into this motor?

The current manual that I'm rocking is the one that I downloaded off this site. Clymer or something along those lines, is there a different one that I should get ahold of?