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Roids!
Posted by
El Diablo
on 11 May, 2013 21:10
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I remember seeing this in the old forum so I thought I would bring this back up.
What is involved in transforming a zilla cylinder into a roid cylinder? Are these a one trick pony or can you MX / dune one of these? What kind of power figures are typical & what is average longevity? The big question... Who builds them?
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#1 Reply
Posted by
Dezsled
on 11 May, 2013 21:22
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Cool this thread isn't what I had envisioned!
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#2 Reply
Posted by
Motoman991
on 11 May, 2013 21:57
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Make sure to drink lots of water while taking roids to help clean your liver.
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Keep your cylinder away from Preparation-H if you want it to stay that size.
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#5 Reply
Posted by
El Diablo
on 12 May, 2013 13:07
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I always thought that the Liger was casted by CPI as a whole different animal. If I remember the thread from the other forum, the Roid started out as a zilla cylinder that was heavily bored out using a different sleeve, had some sort of snowmobile intake grafted into the stock location, and was heavily reinforced around the ears.
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#6 Reply
Posted by
Buckeye513
on 12 May, 2013 13:08
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I thought the roid cylinder was just bored into the water jacket and sleeved to be 650cc or larger but can't run liquid cool as a result. I'm probably wrong but that's what I thought
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#7 Reply
Posted by
El Diablo
on 12 May, 2013 13:13
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Who is the one that bought the complete roid engine on e-bay that 500Fanatic built? Maybe we can get some more pictures posted & a performance report?
(I guess I just answered part of one of my original questions)
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Roid motor and liger are diffrent roid is a big reed bored out huge. believe it has a +3mm stoke also. The liger is a cp aftermarket cylinder. Only roid i know of dale has.
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From what i hear the "roid" motors where time bombs and never really stayed together long enuff to ever make any good times. now the liger on the other hand chris got his running pretty well.
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#10 Reply
Posted by
JayTater
on 12 May, 2013 13:25
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One of my favorite pics!
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#11 Reply
Posted by
Dezsled
on 12 May, 2013 13:43
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Man those liners are thin
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#12 Reply
Posted by
Kyle T
on 12 May, 2013 14:22
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I've got pictures of the one from eBay if anyone wants a laugh.
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#13 Reply
Posted by
Chuckie25
on 12 May, 2013 15:27
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Roid motor and liger are diffrent roid is a big reed bored out huge. believe it has a +3mm stoke also. The liger is a cp aftermarket cylinder. Only roid i know of dale has.
There's 2 that I know of. The dual carb never run one that was on fleebay and Skully's
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#14 Reply
Posted by
Kyle T
on 12 May, 2013 15:37
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I remember hearing about triple carb with computerized nitrous blathering...
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There where a few twinzilla had one with a stock big reed cage i kicked around buying. not sure where it got to. Last i heard skullys was a paperweight. one guy had one in a hybrid for the life of.me cant remember his name. the one on ebay was full tilts i believe his name was mike? Skully switched to the liger it was more economical to make and way more reliable chris has got very impressive numbers from his so far and it still hasnt reached it potential. i dont really see the point other than a straight line or hillshooter tho.
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#16 Reply
Posted by
Dezsled
on 12 May, 2013 18:50
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How much machine work is involved in making one of these cylinders fit on a Zilla bottom end?
Just curious, I'm got my top end at hpr so I'm just window chopping
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#17 Reply
Posted by
Stpltn250r
on 12 May, 2013 19:01
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alot goes into building a liger. mine is a destroked bigbore longrod liger. 685cc. so far its stayed together this go around. my fastest pass so far is a 4.14ET in 300ft. Fat rich, no lockup, no N2O, out of gear and safe timing. only time will tell if it will get into the 3's.
there is wedling of the cases. machining them true again. making of an adapter plate. crank work. cylinder, piston, rod, reeds, intake, carb, pipe, ignition, battery, fuel pump, clutch, over ride. your looking at two maybe three complete zillas just for the motor. no even looking at the frame to get it to hook up. lol. its been a ride. but hopefully when its all done i could sell it and pay for not one but both my kids college.
im debating on taking the liger to a dune race this coming weekend or just riding the 540 and seeing what it does.
but i will def post results the weekend of the 25th (weather permitting). got the lockup in and regearing and rejetting. maybe even spray to get that 3 second mark. lol
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Simpleton, what kind of HP numbers do you think it's making?
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#19 Reply
Posted by
El Diablo
on 12 May, 2013 21:29
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I know some of the first roids had their share of teething problems. Just wondering if any of the builders have looked into developing them further for increased reliability?
Chris, good luck, be safe, & have fun on your outing. Who besides yourself do you know of that is running a zilla based liger? I think it would be a good subject for a writeup on building a ligerzilla... unless there are certain trade secrets to keep?
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#20 Reply
Posted by
Stpltn250r
on 12 May, 2013 21:34
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don't really know. dyno'd it in November. showed 98hp at 8200 rpm. but I didn't gear the bike correctly to load it so it was able to have a lot of advance in the ignition curve. I would say its safe to say around 102-108hp. I haven't had it back to a dyno yet.
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#21 Reply
Posted by
Stpltn250r
on 12 May, 2013 21:35
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skully is the only other person with a ligerzilla.
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#22 Reply
Posted by
PCS
on 12 May, 2013 22:05
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i like these "power" names
zilla, roids, roidzilla,ligers, liger zilla, ect
reminds me of hair bands
white snake, pantera, scorpions, great white, white lion, ect
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Just add 2000 to the name and it will sound powerful AND futuristic.
ex. "There's our inter-dimensional friend Bert, he's riding that Ligerzilla 2000."
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#24 Reply
Posted by
JayTater
on 13 May, 2013 03:32
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Just add 2000 to the name and it will sound powerful AND futuristic.
ex. "There's our inter-dimensional friend Bert, he's riding that Ligerzilla 2000."
Its 2013 tex.
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