In my ongoing quest for quality and performance, I have a question....I see a few more guys buying the Q2.0.. great bling factor which is huge for most people, and durability issues have been addressed. OK. I have also read the claimed change in performance characteristics giving more low and midrange grunt. Sounds good..thats what everyone likes, but I've looked around to find a dyno comparision of the original Q to the 2.0 back to back on the same motor and can't find anything. Are you guys buying based on what your being "told" or is there some hard data to back it up? Popping a wheelie in third gear doesn't really show me how a motor runs under load with different pipes. I WANT TO SEE DYNO INFO! Who knows I might have to buy one myself to keep up this season.
This might need to be moved into Dyno section
OK I have a dyno done with Q pipe and the Modified Q pipe, I have been told my pipe version was 1.1 not a 2.0 .
Engine - 87 LT500 87mm bore - V-2 Reeds- 39 PWK - Mild Play Dune Porting - 57cc Dome
Q Modified Version 1.1 in REDQ Pipe Version 1 in BLUE
Thanks Mitch, that does help alot showing the change possible to the original Q..that torque increase is substantial....but according to RK's claims and what Pipe-ster has confirmed the complete new design of the 2.0 is much different yet, soooo.. we're all pretty savvy big boys here!, I think we deserve to see the hard data ....?
These high performance pipes are bound to start performing more like each other, for example this Q2.0 going more to the mid range like the HPR19...and now there is talk in the Hall shop of more pipe R&D as well. It's gonna be down to splitting hairs very soon... All the more reason we need the hard data to decide which pipe best fits our style...especially when they are commanding such a big price!
I hear what you are saying if you can afford a $800 to $1000 pipe, why not spend an extra $100- $200 to get it dyno tuned for best performance and have a graph? Its a PIA for me , time ,extra cash do not always flow together at the same time to spend on toys.
I am sure there other dyno graphs are out there on the New V-2 that will read a heck of alot more H.P. than mine has, maybe some members will step up and post them soon.
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I really don't have a great desire to test mine. I thought about it. I thought I would do a through test with my Q V1 vs. the V2 but I didn't. I am happy with the "seat of the pants" results. The bike is freaking fast. The dyno Mitch posted shows the results I was looking for. More torque at a earlier RPM............
the supposed V1.1 is the V2. Just put together slightly different.
the supposed V1.1 is the V2. Just put together slightly different.
I really don't have a great desire to test mine. I thought about it. I thought I would do a through test with my Q V1 vs. the V2 but I didn't. I am happy with the "seat of the pants" results. The bike is freaking fast. The dyno Mitch posted shows the results I was looking for. More torque at a earlier RPM............
The v1.1 is not the same as the v2.0.
Read Pipe-sters post. It is a new build. The flange is all new, much larger diameter like the Hall pipe, (not a 250 honda) The pics are out there. Matt says every dimension has changed. The pipe is going to have a different curve than the v1.1.
Some of us really DO have a desire to have factual readable info vs. "seat of the pants" before we make an investment like that. I was shown exactly what I was getting with the HPR19, not a bit of hesitation and no hype from its builder.
Geez man..tell me you at least have a stop watch or something to make sure your getting there quicker..?
I guess if you already spent the money its good that your happy...I haven't spent it yet so I'm asking questions
I just want some clear, documented info that we all can judge for ourselves. I don't want to buy and just hope its all that someone else felt it was......
I would like to see some results too, but I agree eventually we will just be splitting hairs. I know who I would rather deal with as far as customer service goes.
After Scammy, which I was privy to as Dave, John, Freddy, CR and Bell were taking it apart and I got my Q 1.0 pipe the day before and was calling them not RK for install advice. You know my choice. I think the original Q pipe was a huge jump in QR history. It opened this gateway we have here for making a couple atv legends return. Now we have an army of us that love them, and 3hp on top vs 3hp in the mid doesn't matter. We have choices for good parts, which is something the QR community has never enjoyed. Look at all the new awesome parts LT250/500HQ, QRHQ and SQRHQ have generated....
Ummm Mitch you need to call me
After Scammy, which I was privy to as Dave, John, Freddy, CR and Bell were taking it apart and I got my Q 1.0 pipe the day before and was calling them not RK for install advice. You know my choice. I think the original Q pipe was a huge jump in QR history. It opened this gateway we have here for making a couple atv legends return. Now we have an army of us that love them, and 3hp on top vs 3hp in the mid doesn't matter. We have choices for good parts, which is something the QR community has never enjoyed. Look at all the new awesome parts LT250/500HQ, QRHQ and SQRHQ have generated....
I'm also in agreement there... thankfully we have moved way beyond the FMF years and these machines have new life..
I'm also in agreement there... thankfully we have moved way beyond the FMF years and these machines have new life. Thank you Dale.
I wonder what kind of torque curve the FLEXPIPE SPECIAL produces?
I wonder what kind of torque curve the FLEXPIPE SPECIAL produces?
I have been looking for that photo of that Flex Pipe exhaust for 3 weeks now.
FMF years
what where doing when they designed their pipe?
FMF is probably still selling a fair amount of pipes for the LT500. There are new ones still listed on ebay. Almost ever used Zilla I check out has a FMF pipe on it.
How about:
FMF vs. Bill's vs. DG?!! Would this be the ultimate turd....I mean trail pipe shoot out?
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The ultimate low performance shoot out....
We didnt have too many choices back then.
well ill tell you from experience the FMF was night and day difference from the DG. I honestly think the DG did nothing. My guess, DG is the ultimate turd.
Didn't fmf make a different pipe for a while that was a copy of a Paul Turner? Or I may be thinking of a different quad .
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