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+12 swingarm
Posted by
Sandman
on 11 Jun, 2013 21:27
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I'm looking for a +12 swingarm for my 87 zilla, who and where can I find one?
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#1 Reply
Posted by
LT500Kid
on 12 Jun, 2013 04:16
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Metaltech, SLC, or Proformance Prototypes all make custom swingers for both zillas and 250's
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#2 Reply
Posted by
PCS
on 13 Jun, 2013 17:17
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That is a long swinger.
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#3 Reply
Posted by
STARPUSS
on 13 Jun, 2013 20:09
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If you get one made Post some Pic's I am also going to run a +12"
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#4 Reply
Posted by
Buckeye513
on 13 Jun, 2013 20:44
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Starpuss what's been going on with your zilla? Following it on YouTube but been a dead build for 6 or 8 months.
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#5 Reply
Posted by
STARPUSS
on 15 Jun, 2013 00:38
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LOL! , I Will make an Update video one month.
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#6 Reply
Posted by
Aarona40
on 03 Jul, 2013 15:44
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Here is pics of my +12 from Proformance Protoypes. Awesome swinger in my opinion. Super lighweight and Strong!!!
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#7 Reply
Posted by
Dezsled
on 03 Jul, 2013 16:39
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Man that's nice
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Here is pics of my +12 from Proformance Protoypes. Awesome swinger in my opinion. Super lighweight and Strong!!!
Do you know if they do other types of swingers like one for woods climbing? Also for different quads? Maybe would they even be interested in putting different carrier in swingarms for different quads..
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#9 Reply
Posted by
STARPUSS
on 03 Jul, 2013 19:19
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NICE!!!! I Need that
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#10 Reply
Posted by
Aarona40
on 04 Jul, 2013 00:17
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When I talked to him about building me a swinger, I told him what I wanted to do with it. I sent him a stock swinger to build the jig from. He can build them drag lite or
Great guy to work with. Prices on the website (very good pricing). He also does custom work. Yes he builds swingers for other bikes as well.
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#11 Reply
Posted by
Aarona40
on 14 Oct, 2013 16:51
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Curious what you ended up doing? Any pics?
Just a heads up if you haven't. +12 is a lot of swinger. A LOT!!! I have run 6,8,10 overs. The +12 is under my bike with the 1100 in it. Little different setup. I would stick with 6-8. no more. Just my $0.02...
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#12 Reply
Posted by
PCS
on 14 Oct, 2013 17:20
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Are u running a banshee carrier with a banshee lone star axle set up in that swinger?
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Does the extended swingarm allow you to make bigger jumps if you are playing in the sand?
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#14 Reply
Posted by
QuadMan8
on 14 Oct, 2013 17:50
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Big jumps regulated by your thumb and your huevos.
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#15 Reply
Posted by
Aarona40
on 15 Oct, 2013 18:14
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PCS,
Yes it is a 40mm Banshee setup. LoneStar axle and hubs. If you want more pics let me know.
No the extended swinger does not allow for more air. It puts a ton more force and leverage on the pivot. My duner with a +6 runs linkage. The +12 hillshooter doesn't. Way to much leverage once you get past the linkage.
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So if I wanted to jump some big air safely, I might be better off with stock than the extended swingarm?
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#17 Reply
Posted by
Motoman991
on 16 Oct, 2013 12:15
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A long swing arm would have to be very beefy to withstand the forces associated with getting a lot of air. A stock length swing arm would be better for jumping.
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#18 Reply
Posted by
Aarona40
on 16 Oct, 2013 13:54
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Stick with a stock swinger or an aftermarket one. Large amounts of stress on the pivot, linkage and frame once you start going longer. Don't get me wrong, you can jump a little. I will get a little air here and there with my duner(+6). Nothing huge though.
The +12 on my 1100 is there to keep the nose down. Which it has. I can launch with it at @ 8,000 and it will just carry the nose perfectly. Most of the time it just feels light. Not even coming off the ground. As I get even more comfortable with the bike and setup, I can only imagine the front end being carried about 6" off the ground.
Just understand that a +12 is a huge arm. Might be overkill for a 500 dragbike regardless.
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#19 Reply
Posted by
Buckeye513
on 16 Oct, 2013 14:35
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+4-+6 to me is plenty for a drag bike just run a wheelie bar too.
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#20 Reply
Posted by
El Diablo
on 16 Oct, 2013 17:46
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Running a shock linkage or a no link also makes a difference in leverage as well.
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#21 Reply
Posted by
Sledhead
on 16 Oct, 2013 18:26
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So what's a good length to run with a 75HP motor?
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#22 Reply
Posted by
Chuckie25
on 16 Oct, 2013 19:28
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ive heard from some racers that the longer your swingarm the less traction you have at the rear wheels because you are moving them out from under you. thats why most hard core drag bikes are stretched out the front,,,, i would say +2 IF you HAVE to and a wheelie bar. A proper wheelie bar that compliments the geometry of the rear suspension
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#23 Reply
Posted by
PCS
on 16 Oct, 2013 19:58
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I would do a +4 for the 75hp, and a revalved rear shock for the swing arm. Imo the link on the zilla is too close to the swing arm pivot and you are left with lots of leverage against it, especially when u extend the swing arm. Look at a trx250r or banshee, they have a longer link and the rear shock is more centered on the swing arm. Similar with all new 450 quads as well.
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ive heard from some racers that the longer your swingarm the less traction you have at the rear wheels because you are moving them out from under you. thats why most hard core drag bikes are stretched out the front,,,, i would say +2 IF you HAVE to and a wheelie bar. A proper wheelie bar that compliments the geometry of the rear suspension
x2 have heard the same thing.
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