Although friendly competition is always welcome, there doesn't have to be a pissing match. Although a pipe shootout sounds simple to do (and simpler to type), it almost always turns into a "builder shootout", "bike shootout", or "rider shootout". While it's true that a pipe is the other half of the engine equation, a good pipe will show improvements on just about any healthy well tuned engine. The pipes in question as related to this forum are not good pipes, they are exceptional pipes. I have seen most of these pipes in action & those that I haven't, I have heard 1st hand of how good they perform. I also believe that it's true when they say that a satisfied customer is a company's best salesman.

    Before I go any further, think about this comparison for a minute... If I buy a Cadillac & you buy a lincoln and I tell you that my Caddy has more luxury than your Lincoln, am I supposed to expect you to trade your car for one like mine? Hell no! They are both good cars. But I bet that we both will tell the guy with the Honda looking to upgrade that both the big cars are 10X better than what he has now.

    With that being said, who is the target buyer for one of these elite pipes? If I had a DG pipe then I would definately want to see a graph that shows how much of an improvement this elite pipe has over my DG. But I don't have a DG. I have an HPR #19. So am I supposed to sell it because someone with another pipe says it may be better? Are the guys running an Aaen expected to sell theirs because someone else likes another builders pipe?  HELL NO! Because the guys that are running the Q, Hall, DCS, Aaen, (who am I forgetting here?) are not the target buyers. The guys with the PT, Bills, FMF, DG, etc are the ones that need the information so they can make an informed decision. 

    While I am personally all for putting up dyno graphs for information purposes only,  word of mouth does go a long way. The way I see it, out of everyone here on this forum, maybe 20% of the riders here have one of these custom pipes. These 20% need to enlighten the 80% out there that are using the stock or stock appearing pipes, rather than trying to convince the rest of the 20% that their pipe is below par. In other words, stop preaching to the choir & direct your attention to the assembly.