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Roids!
« on: May 11, 2013, 09:10:57 pm »
I remember seeing this in the old forum so I thought I would bring this back up.

 What is involved in transforming a zilla cylinder into a roid cylinder? Are these a one trick pony or can you MX / dune one of these? What kind of power figures are typical & what is average longevity? The big question... Who builds them?
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« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2013, 09:22:21 pm »
Cool this thread isn't what I had envisioned!
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« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2013, 09:57:51 pm »
Make sure to drink lots of water while taking roids to help clean your liver.

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« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2013, 10:26:51 pm »

Keep your cylinder away from Preparation-H if you want it to stay that size.


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« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2013, 12:25:42 pm »
Brian, I believe the roid motors were CP industries Liger cr500 cylinder grafted on to a zilla bottom with an adaptor plate to = 650CC+ http://www.cpindinc.com/pub/view_product/63?lm=5&name=3101-9779-144 I believe Pirahana pete schemberg was building them. Ask Chris Stapleton I believe he had one or still does.
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« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2013, 01:07:40 pm »
I always thought that the Liger was casted  by CPI as a whole different animal. If I remember the thread from the other forum, the Roid started out as a zilla cylinder that was heavily bored out using a different sleeve, had some sort of snowmobile intake grafted into the stock location, and was heavily reinforced around the ears.
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« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2013, 01:08:16 pm »
I thought the roid cylinder was just bored into the water jacket and sleeved to be 650cc or larger but can't run liquid cool as a result. I'm probably wrong but that's what I thought

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« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2013, 01:13:32 pm »
Who is the one that bought the complete roid engine on e-bay that 500Fanatic built? Maybe we can get some more pictures posted & a performance report?
(I guess I just answered part of one of my original questions)
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« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2013, 01:19:43 pm »
Roid motor and liger are diffrent roid is a big reed bored out huge. believe it has a +3mm stoke also. The liger is a cp aftermarket cylinder. Only roid i know of dale has.
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« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2013, 01:23:46 pm »
From what i hear the "roid" motors where time bombs and never really stayed together long enuff to ever make any good times. now the liger on the other hand chris got his running pretty well.
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« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2013, 01:25:45 pm »
One of my favorite pics!

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« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2013, 01:43:49 pm »
Man those liners are thin
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« Reply #12 on: May 12, 2013, 02:22:37 pm »
I've got pictures of the one from eBay if anyone wants a laugh.

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« Reply #13 on: May 12, 2013, 03:27:58 pm »
Roid motor and liger are diffrent roid is a big reed bored out huge. believe it has a +3mm stoke also. The liger is a cp aftermarket cylinder. Only roid i know of dale has.

There's 2 that I know of. The dual carb never run one that was on fleebay and Skully's
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« Reply #14 on: May 12, 2013, 03:37:07 pm »
I remember hearing about triple carb with computerized nitrous blathering...

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« Reply #15 on: May 12, 2013, 06:21:10 pm »
There where a few twinzilla had one with a stock big reed cage i kicked around buying. not sure where it got to. Last i heard skullys was a paperweight. one guy had one in a hybrid for the life of.me cant remember his name. the one on ebay was full tilts i believe his name was mike? Skully switched to the liger it was more economical to make and way more reliable chris has got very impressive numbers from his so far and it still hasnt reached it potential. i dont really see the point other than a straight line or hillshooter tho.
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« Reply #16 on: May 12, 2013, 06:50:48 pm »
How much machine work is involved in making one of these cylinders fit on a Zilla bottom end?

Just curious, I'm got my top end at hpr so I'm just window chopping
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« Reply #17 on: May 12, 2013, 07:01:06 pm »
alot goes into building a liger. mine is a destroked bigbore longrod liger. 685cc. so far its stayed together this go around. my fastest pass so far is a 4.14ET in 300ft. Fat rich, no lockup, no N2O, out of gear and safe timing. only time will tell if it will get into the 3's.

there is wedling of the cases. machining them true again. making of an adapter plate. crank work. cylinder, piston, rod, reeds, intake, carb, pipe, ignition, battery, fuel pump, clutch, over ride.  your looking at two maybe three complete zillas just for the motor. no even looking at the frame to get it to hook up. lol. its been a ride. but hopefully when its all done i could sell it and pay for not one but both my kids college.  :))

im debating on taking the liger to a dune race this coming weekend or just riding the 540 and seeing what it does.

but i will def post results the weekend of the 25th (weather permitting). got the lockup in and regearing and rejetting. maybe even spray to get that 3 second mark. lol

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Re: Roids!
« Reply #18 on: May 12, 2013, 08:10:03 pm »
Simpleton, what kind of HP numbers do you think it's making?

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« Reply #19 on: May 12, 2013, 09:29:46 pm »
I know some of the first roids had their share of teething problems. Just wondering if any of the builders have looked into developing them further for increased reliability?

Chris, good luck, be safe, & have fun on your outing. Who besides yourself do you know of that is running a zilla based liger? I think it would be a good subject for a writeup on building a ligerzilla... unless there are certain trade secrets to keep?
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« Reply #20 on: May 12, 2013, 09:34:35 pm »
don't really know. dyno'd it in November. showed 98hp at 8200 rpm. but I didn't gear the bike correctly to load it so it was able to have a lot of advance in the ignition curve. I would say its safe to say around 102-108hp. I haven't had it back to a dyno yet.

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« Reply #21 on: May 12, 2013, 09:35:39 pm »
skully is the only other person with a ligerzilla.

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« Reply #22 on: May 12, 2013, 10:05:55 pm »
i like these "power" names
zilla, roids, roidzilla,ligers, liger zilla, ect
reminds me of hair bands
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« Reply #23 on: May 12, 2013, 11:42:14 pm »
Just add 2000 to the name and it will sound powerful AND futuristic.
ex. "There's our inter-dimensional friend Bert, he's riding that Ligerzilla 2000."

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« Reply #24 on: May 13, 2013, 03:32:00 am »
Just add 2000 to the name and it will sound powerful AND futuristic.
ex. "There's our inter-dimensional friend Bert, he's riding that Ligerzilla 2000."

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