There where a few twinzilla had one with a stock big reed cage i kicked around buying. not sure where it got to. Last i heard skullys was a paperweight. one guy had one in a hybrid for the life of.me cant remember his name. the one on ebay was full tilts i believe his name was mike? Skully switched to the liger it was more economical to make and way more reliable chris has got very impressive numbers from his so far and it still hasnt reached it potential. i dont really see the point other than a straight line or hillshooter tho.