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Guys I've blowen a head gasket ..
Posted by
Fishbone
on 05 Oct, 2014 06:54
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Noob ? Just got the bike rode it around for about a hours and it started acting up got it back to the yard let it cool of and bam I go to crank then its pour out water out the head ... ( that guy said it was just had a rebuild ) man I should've know better there goes 1500 dallors down the drain . Help !!!!!
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#1 Reply
Posted by
LT500Kid
on 05 Oct, 2014 07:43
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500 or 250? If it's a 500 a lot of us don't use the head mount to help prevent that.
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#2 Reply
Posted by
Fishbone
on 05 Oct, 2014 09:43
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Yes its a 500 87 model it got me mad enough to sale lol
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#3 Reply
Posted by
Fishbone
on 05 Oct, 2014 09:43
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Pls explain iam new
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#4 Reply
Posted by
Fishbone
on 05 Oct, 2014 14:52
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OK but what head mount are you useing
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#5 Reply
Posted by
Buckeye513
on 05 Oct, 2014 16:52
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If you're selling picture and location!
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#6 Reply
Posted by
Fishbone
on 05 Oct, 2014 17:20
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I want to know how to fix the head gasket problem I tried to tighten the bolts down with no porvale one bolt is just keep turning not getting tight all just show more treads .. Help
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#7 Reply
Posted by
LT500Kid
on 05 Oct, 2014 17:25
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sounds like your pulling the studs out of your top end. Don't do that! If you never want to have a blown head gasket ever again send head out to be o ringed and top end get either new studs or stud upgrade to 10mm.
The head stay is the mount on the top of the head that bolts the motor tithe frame. Delete that completely.
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#8 Reply
Posted by
Fishbone
on 05 Oct, 2014 17:31
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So iam screwing it up ? So I just need to buy a gasket ?
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#9 Reply
Posted by
Fishbone
on 05 Oct, 2014 17:43
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LT500Kid iam lost in other words who do I need to send it to or should I just get a new gasket how tight does the bolts need to be and that last paragraph got me confused .. (Delete what)
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#10 Reply
Posted by
Buckeye513
on 05 Oct, 2014 18:18
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Delete the mount from the frame to the head. Basically don't use it.
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#11 Reply
Posted by
Fishbone
on 05 Oct, 2014 18:20
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#12 Reply
Posted by
Fishbone
on 05 Oct, 2014 20:14
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So that top motor mount is not worth having ?
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#13 Reply
Posted by
Kreidy818
on 06 Oct, 2014 02:56
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Yes. Alot of guys dont use that upper motor mount. From the looks of it you pulled that head stud. common problem on the 87's. Torque specs for the head studs is 21ftlb. You will probably have to upgrade to the larger head studs that came on the later years. Welcome to owning a Zilla !
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#14 Reply
Posted by
Fishbone
on 06 Oct, 2014 03:10
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So iam going to have to drill and retread that bolt hole
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#15 Reply
Posted by
LT500Kid
on 06 Oct, 2014 04:47
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Yes. If you haven't done it before I would send it to one of the known builders on here. O ringing and head stud upgrade aren't expensive and it's well worth the money. You will never have a blown head gasket again!!
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#16 Reply
Posted by
Fishbone
on 06 Oct, 2014 05:52
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Who is a good builder and is it worth the money to put back into this bike
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Is it worth the money? Thats something only you can decide if u want a quad to just ride and never have to tinker buy a 4 poke or a utility. If u want something diffrent or something that will pull ure arms off keep the 500 and do the upgrades that we all have done already to make our bikes reliable. Tbh the 500 can be one of the most reliable bike out there. I hammer the hell out of mine all summer beating up on 4 pokes and all I gotta do at the end of the year is replace the piston. Goodluck dont panic there is a pile of knowledge on this site...
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#18 Reply
Posted by
Q2W
on 06 Oct, 2014 09:18
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Send the head off to Jerry (motorgeek) or carl (iceracer). Both guys are fairly active on the site. You likely pulled the threads due to over-tightening but it's ok if you have the larger studs installed. The o-ring mod and stud mod are both a must if you own an 87 top end. I know it's sucks when your bike is down, but everyone here has been there. Just know after a few mods and little cash, you'll have a beast of a ride. And reliable too. The last few trips i've taken to the dunes, aside from a few bolts that fell off, the guys with the 4pokes are breaking down while the zilla cranks 1-3 kicks every time.
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#19 Reply
Posted by
Fishbone
on 06 Oct, 2014 09:25
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How much is a motor build for one of these usually run ... I guess I got sold a bike that was a lie but I guess that's the name of the game told me it only has two hours on the motor guess not
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Problem is it may only have 2 hrs on the motor but when its some fly by nighter putting the bike together then thats where the problems start. Call jerry hall explain ure situation and he will guide u down the best path. I have also heard iceracer does some damn nice work also.
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1500 for a complete zilla aint really that bad. I paid 2500 for my first and it was a total p.o.s my 2nd was 1k p.o.s rust bucket sitting in a barn for 5 years bone stock never even rode it b4 I tore it into pieces. So it could be alot worse tbh lol
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#22 Reply
Posted by
Fishbone
on 06 Oct, 2014 10:22
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Hope jerry hall get back in touch with me sent a message
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#23 Reply
Posted by
Q2W
on 06 Oct, 2014 12:17
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Don't freak out, a blown head gasket is normal for 87's. Your top end is likely fine. Just need to get that head tweaked.
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#24 Reply
Posted by
Fishbone
on 06 Oct, 2014 19:01
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I sold it
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that is as much as I tighten the bolts down hope this gives you a picture of how tight they are.