copper head gasket and permatex spray for germany ?

• copper head gasket and permatex spray for germany ?
  Posted by Frank on 14 Oct, 2013 12:14
• where do I get a Copper head gasket and Permatex copper spray a gasket for Germany?
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  Posted by Glamisrider on 14 Oct, 2013 14:07
• Frank you're much better off with a Cometic AFM and 3bond 1211.
  
  You can order Copper or AFM from Cometic or you can order AFM from Mitch here on the site and I'm sure he'll work with you on shipping it to Germany
  
  http://www.suzukiquadracerhq.com/index.php?action=store;cat=11
  
  
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  Posted by Buckeye513 on 14 Oct, 2013 15:38
• Cometic doesn't make an AFM head gasket.
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  Posted by MotorGeek - Jerry Hall on 14 Oct, 2013 16:40
• Quote from: Frank on 14 Oct, 2013 12:14

  where do I get a Copper head gasket and Permatex copper spray a gasket for Germany?
  

  
  Why are you considering going to the unreliable and problematic copper head gasket??
  
  The copper gasket is really just a metal spacer.  It is the type of glue that is put on both sides of the metal spacer that makes it seal or NOT seal.  Copper is not soft enough to be a good gasket material when sandwiched between two soft aluminum surfaces.  A good gasket is usually (almost always) softer than the two surfaces that it is sandwiched between.
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  Posted by Rainman56 on 14 Oct, 2013 18:34
• The old 76 Merc Sno Twisters used copper head gaskets and always seems to be seeping at some point.Even if the head and cylinder were machined true still seeped coolant.
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  Posted by El Diablo on 14 Oct, 2013 20:27
• Frank, get that head O-ringed!   
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  Posted by Frank on 15 Oct, 2013 11:40
• ok thank you first of all ... I thought a copper gasket is the best for the money? but when that is unreliable I do not want that too. my zyl.bore is 87 5 what should I use for this?
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  Posted by MotorGeek - Jerry Hall on 15 Oct, 2013 17:30
• Quote from: Frank on 15 Oct, 2013 11:40

  ok thank you first of all ... I thought a copper gasket is the best for the money? but when that is unreliable I do not want that too. my zyl.bore is 87 5 what should I use for this?
  

  
  Are you having head gasket failures?
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  Posted by Frank on 16 Oct, 2013 06:38
• Water drips out of the Head.
   And i think its entering at the Inside to the Piston a little...
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  Posted by MotorGeek - Jerry Hall on 16 Oct, 2013 07:33
• Quote from: Frank on 16 Oct, 2013 06:38

  Water drips out of the Head.
   And i think its entering at the Inside to the Piston a little...
  

  
  Do you have the small or large reed cylinder, ( 6 or 7 head stud cylinder)?
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  Posted by Frank on 16 Oct, 2013 11:57
• Sorry
  I have the 7 stud head
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  Posted by Frank on 23 Oct, 2013 02:51
• I got on e-bay found a Wiseco gasket kit for 86 - 88mm bore
  for 88-90 zilla.
  costs to germany after 65, 67 €
  which is ok?
  
  Greeting Frank
  
  Jawzys .
  Part: Top End Gaskets
  Brand: Wiseco
  Part Number: W5150
  
  Specifications
  Gasket Position: Top End
  Bore Range: 86.00-88.00 mm
  
  Application
  Make: Suzuki
  Model: LT-500R QuadRacer
  Years: 1988-1990
  Made from the highest quality materials
  Engineered by Wiseco to insure compatibility with Wiseco products
  Each gasket kit is sourced in-house by Wiseco to find the most
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  Posted by Ywnmn on 13 Dec, 2015 14:24
• Is there anywhere to buy an already o-ringed head for my 87 500? Having trouble with my head gasket too. Sick of fooling with it.
  
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  Posted by Mr.Sampson on 13 Dec, 2015 16:17
• Send it to Iceracer
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  Posted by Motoman991 on 14 Dec, 2015 13:05
• Reviving a 2+ year old thread?  Nice......
  
  But to answer your question, any machine shop can cut a groove in the head for an o-ring.
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  Posted by Ywnmn on 14 Dec, 2015 14:44
• wouldn't they need to allow for gasket too, squish? What do they do, haunch out the dome? IDK.
  
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  Posted by Glamisrider on 14 Dec, 2015 18:02
• Quote from: Motoman991 on 14 Dec, 2015 13:05

  any machine shop can cut a groove in the head for an o-ring.
  

  
  Motoman is not quite correct, the o-ring groove needs to be cut a certain way along with the sealing surface as the o-ring does not actually do the sealing so much as providing a barrier.  Take it to someone who know's what their doing.
  
  Send it to Carl (Ice racer) or somebody else who has a good rep.
  
  
  

  Quote from: Ywnmn on 14 Dec, 2015 14:44

  wouldn't they need to allow for gasket too, squish? What do they do, haunch out the dome? IDK.
  

  
  You may need to get a thicker base gasket but a good builder will be able to tell you exactly what you'll need to do to fix all of it correctly before you even send it to them....Call Carl.
  
  
  
  
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