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copper head gasket and permatex spray for germany ?
« on: October 14, 2013, 12:14:05 pm »
where do I get a Copper head gasket and Permatex copper spray a gasket for Germany?
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Re: copper head gasket and permatex spray for germany ?
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2013, 02:07:25 pm »
Frank you're much better off with a Cometic AFM and 3bond 1211.

You can order Copper or AFM from Cometic or you can order AFM from Mitch here on the site and I'm sure he'll work with you on shipping it to Germany

http://www.suzukiquadracerhq.com/index.php?action=store;cat=11

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Re: copper head gasket and permatex spray for germany ?
« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2013, 03:38:19 pm »
Cometic doesn't make an AFM head gasket.
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Re: copper head gasket and permatex spray for germany ?
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2013, 04:40:53 pm »
Quote from: Frank on October 14, 2013, 12:14:05 pm
where do I get a Copper head gasket and Permatex copper spray a gasket for Germany?

Why are you considering going to the unreliable and problematic copper head gasket?????

The copper gasket is really just a metal spacer.  It is the type of glue that is put on both sides of the metal spacer that makes it seal or NOT seal.  Copper is not soft enough to be a good gasket material when sandwiched between two soft aluminum surfaces.  A good gasket is usually (almost always) softer than the two surfaces that it is sandwiched between.
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Re: copper head gasket and permatex spray for germany ?
« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2013, 06:34:19 pm »
The old 76 Merc Sno Twisters used copper head gaskets and always seems to be seeping at some point.Even if the head and cylinder were machined true still seeped coolant.
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Re: copper head gasket and permatex spray for germany ?
« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2013, 08:27:17 pm »
Frank, get that head O-ringed!   (Y)
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Re: copper head gasket and permatex spray for germany ?
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2013, 11:40:18 am »
ok thank you first of all ... I thought a copper gasket is the best for the money? but when that is unreliable I do not want that too. my zyl.bore is 87 5 what should I use for this?
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Re: copper head gasket and permatex spray for germany ?
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2013, 05:30:14 pm »
Quote from: Frank on October 15, 2013, 11:40:18 am
ok thank you first of all ... I thought a copper gasket is the best for the money? but when that is unreliable I do not want that too. my zyl.bore is 87 5 what should I use for this?

Are you having head gasket failures?
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Re: copper head gasket and permatex spray for germany ?
« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2013, 06:38:18 am »
Water drips out of the Head.
 And i think its entering at the Inside to the Piston a little...
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« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2013, 07:33:32 am »
Quote from: Frank on October 16, 2013, 06:38:18 am
Water drips out of the Head.
 And i think its entering at the Inside to the Piston a little...

Do you have the small or large reed cylinder, ( 6 or 7 head stud cylinder)?
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Re: copper head gasket and permatex spray for germany ?
« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2013, 11:57:02 am »
Sorry
I have the 7 stud head
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Re: copper head gasket and permatex spray for germany ?
« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2013, 02:51:27 am »
I got on e-bay found a Wiseco gasket kit for 86 - 88mm bore
for 88-90 zilla.
costs to germany after 65, 67 €
which is ok?

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Re: copper head gasket and permatex spray for germany ?
« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2015, 02:24:05 pm »
Is there anywhere to buy an already o-ringed head for my 87 500? Having trouble with my head gasket too. Sick of fooling with it.
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Re: copper head gasket and permatex spray for germany ?
« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2015, 04:17:40 pm »
Send it to Iceracer
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Re: copper head gasket and permatex spray for germany ?
« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2015, 01:05:09 pm »
Reviving a 2+ year old thread?  Nice......

But to answer your question, any machine shop can cut a groove in the head for an o-ring.
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Re: copper head gasket and permatex spray for germany ?
« Reply #15 on: December 14, 2015, 02:44:58 pm »
wouldn't they need to allow for gasket too, squish? What do they do, haunch out the dome? IDK.
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Re: copper head gasket and permatex spray for germany ?
« Reply #16 on: December 14, 2015, 06:02:37 pm »
Quote from: Motoman991 on December 14, 2015, 01:05:09 pm
any machine shop can cut a groove in the head for an o-ring.

Motoman is not quite correct, the o-ring groove needs to be cut a certain way along with the sealing surface as the o-ring does not actually do the sealing so much as providing a barrier.  Take it to someone who know's what their doing.

Send it to Carl (Ice racer) or somebody else who has a good rep.


Quote from: Ywnmn on December 14, 2015, 02:44:58 pm
wouldn't they need to allow for gasket too, squish? What do they do, haunch out the dome? IDK.

You may need to get a thicker base gasket but a good builder will be able to tell you exactly what you'll need to do to fix all of it correctly before you even send it to them....Call Carl.



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