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Dyno Testing V-1 and V2 Pipes 02-07-13 My Quad
« on: February 07, 2013, 06:16:34 pm »
This is some Dyno runs for the V1 and V2 pipes done on my LT500, 88 bottom end /87 top end / 87mm bore / Play Dune Port / 42 mikuni / 9" Open K&N / C12 Fuel / 927 28-1 / Tires Hoosiers Slicks
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Dyno Testing, Dales Dune Porting Quad V-1 and V-2 Pipes (Same Day as Mine) Same Fuel and Tires used.







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Re: Dyno Testing V-1 and V2 Pipes 02-07-13 My Quad
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2013, 06:34:07 pm »
This was an out of pocket expense to Dyno these pipes, but we wanted to see was the Power Band Curve of each pipe, as for myself I see opportunity to start working on refining my DCS-5
Thank you Dale, Mike, Benny
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Re: Dyno Testing V-1 and V2 Pipes 02-07-13 My Quad
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2013, 06:47:21 pm »
thanks for posting Mitch, and taking the time and money to have this done.
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Re: Dyno Testing V-1 and V2 Pipes 02-07-13 My Quad
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2013, 07:14:50 pm »
Was a group effort John, Dale did some insane traveling with his HPR-19 and a V-1, lots of respect for that HPR-19 the detail into that pipe is just awesome.
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Re: Dyno Testing V-1 and V2 Pipes 02-07-13 My Quad
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2013, 07:50:26 pm »
Surprising to see how similar these pipes perform. 
Will you be posting the HPR run as well?
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Re: Dyno Testing V-1 and V2 Pipes 02-07-13 My Quad
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2013, 07:54:52 pm »
Surprising to see how similar these pipes perform. 
Will you be posting the HPR run as well?

yeah i am still looking to see where The Harder Hit is at, thought there was gonna be something to amaze me, but I guess not.
well at least not +$200 more thats for sure
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Re: Dyno Testing V-1 and V2 Pipes 02-07-13 My Quad
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2013, 08:39:25 pm »
The amount spent was just about the cost of a Q pipe on dynoing....
87 HPR LT500
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Re: Dyno Testing V-1 and V2 Pipes 02-07-13 My Quad
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2013, 09:06:00 pm »
After doing 7 pipe swaps on dyno day one and 8 changes on dyno day two, the attention to detail on the Hall pipe was second to none. The exhaust flange is well thought out. No need for an exhaust gasket, the flange has it built in. The one pipe mount works.
Owner of the 6 month old V2 already had to patch the lower mount, he's a welder so he did a clean job. Plating was flaking off. The V1 silencer rivets were sloppy.

Before anyone gets butt hurt, these were things I seen doing the swaps. I took lots of pics and video.

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Re: Dyno Testing V-1 and V2 Pipes 02-07-13 My Quad
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2013, 09:23:41 pm »
Thanks Mitch and all involved in testing,good info.Not the difference I was expecting from what I,ve heard.
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Re: Dyno Testing V-1 and V2 Pipes 02-07-13 My Quad
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2013, 10:19:02 pm »
Seems like the V1 has a better curve.
The V2 has a bit more power (1-2HP...AMAZING.) but it's more ragged than the V1.
Think I'd stick with the V1 unless that 7-7.5K dip could be tuned out of the V2.
There's something in the engine and pipe combo that just doesn't like that RPM range, maybe a slightly different setup would yield a smoother curve.
Either way, grk was saying that the V2 costs $200 more, so the gains from the V2 (2HP all around?) wind up costing $100/HP.
How does that stack up to other pipes as far as $$$/HP ratios?

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Re: Dyno Testing V-1 and V2 Pipes 02-07-13 My Quad
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2013, 10:36:26 pm »
Surprising to see how similar these pipes perform. 
Will you be posting the HPR run as well?
See how this one segment goes, and if Dale wants to post his Duner Quads Graphs, to be honest I wanted to see V1 and V2 graphs next to my pipe, like I wrote there will be changes to my DCS-5 coming up, some graphs the DCS is about the same , then I drop 4 HP but my torque at lower RPM just hits hard.
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Re: Dyno Testing V-1 and V2 Pipes 02-07-13 My Quad
« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2013, 11:12:50 pm »
V-2 Flange ..........................................................V-1 Flange .............................................HPR 19 Flange


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Re: Dyno Testing V-1 and V2 Pipes 02-07-13 My Quad
« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2013, 05:29:03 am »
Thanks for doing this guys.

It appears the V2 is solid performer and does what Q said it would do. Comes on sooner and has more torque and horsepower through a nice curve. These 500's are awesome. Pipe, Porting, and Carb work nets you some a really fun action!

The slight dip after 7K is not that concerning for me since I am not one to rev the **** out of a 500. If I wanted that, I'd buy a banshee.

I am not sure where this $200.00 dollars is coming from? Is this for original Q pipe owners to make a move to the new Q pipe? There is no new V1 purchase option. At any rate, its a great pipe. 
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Re: Dyno Testing V-1 and V2 Pipes 02-07-13 My Quad
« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2013, 06:21:49 am »
the v1 pipes were 695. the v2 pipes are 895.

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Re: Dyno Testing V-1 and V2 Pipes 02-07-13 My Quad
« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2013, 08:19:43 am »
Thats a beautiful site seeing those 3 pipes together.

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Re: Dyno Testing V-1 and V2 Pipes 02-07-13 My Quad
« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2013, 08:51:11 am »
After doing 7 pipe swaps on dyno day one and 8 changes on dyno day two, the attention to detail on the Hall pipe was second to none. The exhaust flange is well thought out. No need for an exhaust gasket, the flange has it built in. The one pipe mount works.
Owner of the 6 month old V2 already had to patch the lower mount, he's a welder so he did a clean job. Plating was flaking off. The V1 silencer rivets were sloppy.

Before anyone gets butt hurt, these were things I seen doing the swaps. I took lots of pics and video.

damm the v2 already has a cracking problem, he must not of had it mounted right.  :o
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Re: Dyno Testing V-1 and V2 Pipes 02-07-13 My Quad
« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2013, 10:27:13 am »
The silencers are half assed on the Q pipes they need both mounting Points like that hpr does. Both of mine feel like they could fall off at any moment   Rk dropped the ball on that design IMO.
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Re: Dyno Testing V-1 and V2 Pipes 02-07-13 My Quad
« Reply #17 on: February 08, 2013, 10:31:26 am »
Easy to understand why dyno info seemed unimportant to the V2 crowd...Its the same exact pipe as the V1 (lots of dyno info out there on it) with the exception of a 1/4" spacer welded in the very front of the head pipe..had to twist it a little different to fit because of the new Flange spacing it out another 1 1/2".  The new flange has a 1mm larger I.D.,  same O.D...they will interchange.  The added length moves the curve about 200 rpm earlier which is better for most riders. 

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Re: Dyno Testing V-1 and V2 Pipes 02-07-13 My Quad
« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2013, 10:52:42 am »
one good thing about all this, I can sell my v1 pipe for more money than what i paid for it. lol
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Re: Dyno Testing V-1 and V2 Pipes 02-07-13 My Quad
« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2013, 11:08:29 am »
one good thing about all this, I can sell my v1 pipe for more money than what i paid for it. lol
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Re: Dyno Testing V-1 and V2 Pipes 02-07-13 My Quad
« Reply #20 on: February 08, 2013, 11:11:29 am »
So dose the HPR #19 pulls harder.... S~


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Re: Dyno Testing V-1 and V2 Pipes 02-07-13 My Quad
« Reply #21 on: February 08, 2013, 11:12:32 am »
Good data. Excellent work ERBE.

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Re: Dyno Testing V-1 and V2 Pipes 02-07-13 My Quad
« Reply #22 on: February 08, 2013, 11:14:23 am »
So dose the HPR #19 pulls harder....suzukiquadracerhq

Lets race...lol
HPR19 will be posted soon in its own thread comparing V2
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Re: Dyno Testing V-1 and V2 Pipes 02-07-13 My Quad
« Reply #23 on: February 08, 2013, 11:22:18 am »
So dose the HPR #19 pulls harder....suzukiquadracerhq

Lets race...lol
HPR19 will be posted soon in its own thread comparing V2

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Re: Dyno Testing V-1 and V2 Pipes 02-07-13 My Quad
« Reply #24 on: February 08, 2013, 11:31:17 am »
Of course it does. 

 

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