ok. No problem. I do have an older set now that I got with a quad I bought and I put the maier rear on with the factory front and for a rider I really don't have any complaints about how they fit. I think the Maier fender is thicker than the OEM and seems more durable. Someone drilled the holes in the wrong spot on these thats why I asked if they were pre drilled now or not. I took off my OEM rear fenders because its something you can't buy anymore and I want to save them.....Can buy new Maier fenders anytime.