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Aftermarket ext swingarms round carriers
Posted by
RUn2it
on 28 Feb, 2015 13:35
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Hey all, new here and 1st post, it seems all the aftermarket swingarms for the LT500 are round housing bearing carriers that use a Banshee dimension carrier, do the LT's carrier components diameter prevent machining a carrier for them, if not has anyone tried machining the oem carrier to fit the round housing. With the cost of longer A-arms, swingarm, 3 stage 4 Elka's, z400 spindles & YFZ calipers, SS brakelines etc the added cost of new ext axle + hubs, sprocket + rotor hubs etc is kicking my a$$. Thanks, Lee
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#1 Reply
Posted by
Skeans1
on 28 Feb, 2015 14:27
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There is one company that does make a swinger and carrier still that use the 500 axle and components called Fireball Racing they look to be a quality arm, maybe someone on here that has one can chime in.
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you can buy a round carrier for a lt500. It uses all the stock components. im thinking lonestar? I had one in my old leagers arm. If I was you id get a arm for a banshee carrier. Best thing I ever did for my 500... Then go on ebay and buy a banshee axle assembly on the cheap...
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#3 Reply
Posted by
RUn2it
on 01 Mar, 2015 13:44
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Cunningham_821, you say the Banshee axle assembly was the best thing, is the Banshee assembly that much lighter? Did you change your swingarm at the same time? I'm trying to justify the added cost and I just put new 4x110 wheels and billet aluminum extended hubs on (helps a lot sidehilling the dunes). I'm a big believer in lowering rotating mass and unsprung weight. I tested Douglas blue vs red label wheels, both had the same tires, and raced the same 2 guys up Dumont comp, red label I had a couple bike lengths on them and the blue label I had 3 times that easily, and the difference between .125 & .190 and on the smaller wheel circle, that much weight off the tire is compounded by the large circle. And lower weight doesn't have the lower reliability/longevity issues as adding HP. An axle doesn't effect rotating mass much but it's still unsprung weight. any idea what the weight difference and length between the Banshee assembly and the LT's? Thanks for the info. Lee
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#4 Reply
Posted by
El Diablo
on 01 Mar, 2015 23:12
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you can buy a round carrier for a lt500. It uses all the stock components. im thinking lonestar? I had one in my old leagers arm. If I was you id get a arm for a banshee carrier. Best thing I ever did for my 500... Then go on ebay and buy a banshee axle assembly on the cheap...
There are a few companies that make the LT-500 round carrier. But if you are drag racing, definitely go with the Banshee size carrier housing and run an aluminum axle.
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#5 Reply
Posted by
RUn2it
on 02 Mar, 2015 15:58
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The LT is a dune quad, any drag racing will be fun and games. I was curious if the OEM carrier was large enough to turn it on a lathe for the round carrier housing, have 3 lathes so might as well ask. I can't be the 1st one that thought about this with a 28 year old quad..... I live by the Q meister, with all the variants he has messed with he probably has an idea. Thanks for the info. Lee
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Main reason to run banshee set-up is the large aftermarket. I replaced my swinger and went with an aluminum axle assembly. But on my stocker spare parts bike ill build a swinger and use a banshee axle hubs etc. I got fed up with trying to find 500 parts. U can buy a banshee blaster warrior axle sprockets etc. Everywhere
**** u cpuld prob find one on the clearance rack of your local walmart lol
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#7 Reply
Posted by
El Diablo
on 04 Mar, 2015 19:38
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I'm not really sure how strong the factory cast aluminum carrier would be if it gets whittled down on a lathe. Plus the holes for the adjustment bolts would be a weak point. The Lonestar carriers as well as the other aftermarket carriers are billet pieces so they are quite a bit stronger.
Fwiw, the factory carrier is no longer available from any dealers so they are becoming a rare commodity. You can sell it for $35-50 or even more.
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#8 Reply
Posted by
Skeans1
on 04 Mar, 2015 19:45
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And the lonestar one isn't made anymore either, so you're down to a fireball one or like a JJ&A banshee carrier.
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#9 Reply
Posted by
El Diablo
on 04 Mar, 2015 20:03
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Who makes the round carriers for the Metal Tech swing arms?
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#10 Reply
Posted by
Skeans1
on 04 Mar, 2015 20:06
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They used Lonestar, when I called about having one built for mine they would only do a banshee carrier because Lonestar quit making them.
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#11 Reply
Posted by
El Diablo
on 04 Mar, 2015 20:14
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Well that's a revolting development!
Fwiw, I run a JJ&A play axle on one of my bikes. I have not had any issues with it yet. And yes, I air it out once in a while.
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#12 Reply
Posted by
Skeans1
on 04 Mar, 2015 20:19
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Yeah, has anyone tried a fireball racing swing arm?
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#13 Reply
Posted by
RUn2it
on 04 Mar, 2015 20:38
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I contacted Fireball, they will build a +4 round carrier 1 that uses OEM axle etc, powdercoated any color, everything for $750. I want to get the diameter measurement of the carrier to see if the OEM carrier has enough aluminum to turn down to fit the round carrier, probably not but who knows? Lee
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700$ yikes. Im so glad i got my jig finished. I figure i can make a badass swinger for roughly $150 in materials lol
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#15 Reply
Posted by
Hotbutta
on 07 Mar, 2015 22:23
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I'll buy.
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#16 Reply
Posted by
JDaivs1
on 25 Apr, 2015 00:40
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#17 Reply
Posted by
Skeans1
on 25 Apr, 2015 10:06
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There was a few guys on here that had their swingers, when I called they didn't have a jig for a 500.
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#18 Reply
Posted by
Ywnmn
on 22 Sep, 2015 13:49
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So a banshee swing arm fit a lt500r?
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#19 Reply
Posted by
El Diablo
on 22 Sep, 2015 14:19
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So a banshee swing arm fit a lt500r?
Not without A LOT of work
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We build custom swingarms for over 30 different models and will soon be offering Swingarms for all 3 LT250 models as well as the LT500 either with the round style carrier(450R axle conversion) or to use the Stock OEM carrier. In length from -2” to +14”. We have the LT500 swingarm to mock up but we cannot find a OEM carrier to finish the mock up for our jig. We are also looking for two models of the LT250 swingarm. We need the round style swingarm and the model with the wide linkage mount. Let us know what you have so we can start offering these models to this community.
Thanks
Mike
TerraFab Swingarms LLC
www.terrafabswingarms.comwww.facebook.com/terrafabswingarms
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I just sold you my 1988 swingarm, terra_fab swingarms! I shipped it out today! When will you be able to manufacture 1985 & 1986 LT250R swingarms?? I want one!
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#22 Reply
Posted by
Q2W
on 24 Jul, 2018 06:23
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I have a stock 500 carrier laying around if you need. I'm also in the market for a new extended round style swinger. Like everyone has said, you cant get parts for the 500 rear end anymore and both my chain and brake rotors are wore out.
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#23 Reply
Posted by
El Diablo
on 25 Jul, 2018 08:17
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We build custom swingarms for over 30 different models and will soon be offering Swingarms for all 3 LT250 models as well as the LT500 either with the round style carrier(450R axle conversion) or to use the Stock OEM carrier. In length from -2” to +14”. We have the LT500 swingarm to mock up but we cannot find a OEM carrier to finish the mock up for our jig. We are also looking for two models of the LT250 swingarm. We need the round style swingarm and the model with the wide linkage mount. Let us know what you have so we can start offering these models to this community.
Thanks
Mike
TerraFab Swingarms LLC
www.terrafabswingarms.com
www.facebook.com/terrafabswingarms
Is Ti an option?
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#24 Reply
Posted by
Canada
on 26 Jul, 2018 20:00
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I dont use face boob, how much is a swinger/carrier that uses a banshee 40mm drag axle?
I also have a mint oem setup, id ship in for a reduced cost.
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