The hill being pikes peak which is mostly concrete. I'm not a Q fan or Q backer or Q customer. Like I've state before I have no horse in the race all of this is entertainment for me that's it. I don't come to this forum for all the drama I come for information, knowledge and advice. I do however get a kick out of stirring the pot a little which was why I even bothered posting Q's video extending the dining trip challenge.

An uphill sand race is a hell of alot more demanding on a motor/bike than a uphill street race fyi.  Go take a person or a horse for that matter and have them walk uphill on pavement then have them try it in sand.  Huge diff!