The hill being pikes peak which is mostly concrete. I'm not a Q fan or Q backer or Q customer. Like I've state before I have no horse in the race all of this is entertainment for me that's it. I don't come to this forum for all the drama I come for information, knowledge and advice. I do however get a kick out of stirring the pot a little which was why I even bothered posting Q's video extending the dining trip challenge.