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Re: My First 88 LT500 Build
« Reply #550 on: September 06, 2013, 02:02:21 pm »
Only one circuit on the cdi is in specs according to the manual for resistance. Stator tested fine as well as pick up coil.

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« Reply #551 on: September 06, 2013, 03:22:13 pm »
You gunna get Moto to bring you his CDI and see if that works then? Tell him he can stop and use that Starbucks giftcard on the way LMFAO
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« Reply #552 on: September 06, 2013, 06:30:36 pm »
I hope motoman clips some wires and brings me his cdi to try but its gonna have to wait till my carbon fiber stator cover is done and water pump rebuild parts are here. Also gonna be looking into doing a carbon fiber hood. Once I have the first one done I may have a fab guy that's interested in producing pretty much anything carbon fiber you can want for the Zilla.

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« Reply #553 on: September 06, 2013, 06:54:38 pm »
I would be highly interested in a stator cover for my 250 and maybe a custom quick change clutch cover setup..

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« Reply #554 on: September 06, 2013, 07:35:52 pm »
I got a buddy that's the same way that lives around the corner from me. I just haven't gotten over to his house so he could copy anything. Plus he's hurt right now after his "not-a-drag-bike" went end over end over end a few times. Not real sure how keen he is on doing ATV things. But dudes a freakin genius.
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Re: My First 88 LT500 Build
« Reply #555 on: September 06, 2013, 07:38:45 pm »
You talk about kfxguy a lot... lol

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« Reply #556 on: September 07, 2013, 04:50:40 am »
Forgot took the water pump impeller off the rubber washer had barely any rubber on it. Gonna do like Jerry said and grind down the impeller shaft a little but also gonna replace all the seals and washers.

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« Reply #557 on: September 07, 2013, 05:57:26 am »
You talk about kfxguy a lot... lol

I was just saying I got a link to someone that does carbon fiber as well,,,, plus a zilla hood to donate to get copied,,,, lol
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« Reply #558 on: September 07, 2013, 02:18:37 pm »
Is a lt250 and lt500 cdi the same part like interchangeable?

Also here's pictures of the airbox I made and airbox eliminator bracket I made mounted.


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« Reply #559 on: September 07, 2013, 07:23:07 pm »
What size main jet are you starting out with? That's a good dune filter setup you got there now. I like it -
Ain't ever seen it......but I have heard it.

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« Reply #560 on: September 07, 2013, 09:29:46 pm »
I have a 580 in it right now with a 25 pilot and that's my drag filter setup the airbox is for when I trai ride it will get a filter mounted in it with an outterwears lid that velcrows on. If you'd like either setup in aluminum or carbon fiber let me know my dads fab guy is doing my stator cover in carbon fiber and will likely be teaching me to do my hood in carbon fiber.

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« Reply #561 on: September 07, 2013, 09:58:07 pm »
Buck keep us posted on how the carbon fiber goes cause I am interested in getting a few parts made.

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« Reply #562 on: September 07, 2013, 10:08:02 pm »
Like I said earlier the parts will be made for the 500. I don't have 250 parts to make molds from so if you have a two fiddy And have interest in any CF stuff once I get some stuff done I will need parts for molds And mock up cannot be guaranteed.

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« Reply #563 on: September 08, 2013, 07:00:27 am »
Ya I can send ya molds. And that's fine as long as I don't have to pay in advance and they turn out wrong.

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« Reply #564 on: September 08, 2013, 07:51:19 am »
I'm not MHR Sam once my cover is done I'll post a video so you can really see it then if you want to send your cover ill have a mold made for it then send it back you can pay for it after its done and I send you a video showing you what it looks like finished. I'm also gonna replace my motor mounts with carbon fiber mounts.

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« Reply #565 on: September 08, 2013, 04:47:09 pm »
LMAO sounds good derrick!  D?

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« Reply #566 on: September 09, 2013, 10:35:02 am »
not hatting on you, but do you think carbon fiber motor mounts are a good idea? im not a official engineer but i was doing structural and materials engineering before i decided to drop out of college. heres why i think its a bad idea.

carbon fiber will be stong only when load is applied parallel/same direction as the carbon weave. side to side, i feel as if the carbon will flex and eventually crack from viibrations. its not my bike im just trying to keep you from wrenching and get you riding. i know a guy on the bansheehq who can lazer cut any metal for u, if i were you, in a perfect world, id use titanium. in the real world id say the same thickness stainless would be the best material.

heres me speaking outloud here. in my experience with materials sometimes "strongness" dosnt directly relate to stiffness. sorta like bullet proof vest, instead of the bullet being stopped by a super dense hard metal we use a light weight, flexable material to slow the speed of the bullet.

i see carbon as just like a kevlar vest, it gains its strength from being flexible. you can bend a sheet a .25 carbon fiber plate more than double than a .25 steel plate without compromising the integrity. given carbon fiber is lighter, theoretical stronger its properties would not make an ideal candidate to isolate and supportthe motor under full load.

ive never worked with carbon before so dont take anything as i say as fact. but i still feel as if stainless is the best bet.
you already broke 2 aluminium brackets without riding it

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« Reply #567 on: September 09, 2013, 11:16:13 am »
Thank you for the input my dad is taking the mounts to his fab guy today. His fab guy told him once the carbon fiber is pressure treated and sealed its 10x stronger than steel. He didn't specify if that was on a horizontal stress plane or vertical stress plane. Ill be sure my dad describes how the load is supported by the mounts and see what his guy thinks. If all else fails I'm having my broken mounts welded where they broke and cutting a spare set out of some 1/4" diamond plate aluminum we have laying around in the shop. Also the mounts aren't under an extreme load like my broken ones would indicate. I installed the spacers wrong which gave zero room for movement of the motor. Basically I broke the mounts not the design of the mounts or the engine. Again thank you for the info really appreciate it cause its something I didn't know and wouldn't have shared with my dads fab guy.

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« Reply #568 on: September 09, 2013, 11:20:12 am »
There's a guy from the old site who was making and running the carbon fiber motor mounts already and the were just fine. The force is being applied to the edge of the carbon fiber, sorta like pressing against the edge of a sheet of paper, and not on the flat of the material, so the load/force is dispersed evenly and without risk of the mount breaking. also, the engine is held pretty firm inside the chassis and isn't twisting and swaying all over the place ya know? even though the suzuki's cheap steel frame DOES flex, it would be perfectly fine.
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« Reply #569 on: September 09, 2013, 11:53:50 am »
I'm gonna see about doing a black and yellow weave of carbon fiber. All I'm paying for is materials and the guy is gonna show me how to do it all so its a pretty cool deal he works with my dad and is one of the many fab guys for the company my dad works for Specialty Vehicles Group.

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« Reply #570 on: September 09, 2013, 05:08:33 pm »
That would be friggin sick!

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« Reply #571 on: September 17, 2013, 06:39:10 am »
Mounting the Q silencer, was looking at pictures and realized its up high. Was I supposed to use the other unused stock exhaust hanger to mount it? It's just up high close to the sub frame and is twisted on the mounting bushing.

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Re: My First 88 LT500 Build
« Reply #572 on: September 17, 2013, 07:59:16 am »
This is a V2 but the V1 mounts the same way, I believe.  Take your time mounting the pipe.  Make sure you have a rubber isolator at every mount point.  Be certain that the pipe does not touch the frame directly or indirectly through a mount.  It will crack if it sees un-dampened vibration from the engine.  This fact is well documented.  Also, shim your mounts so the pipe is not in a bind at all.  You just want it to "hang" on the frame.  You should not be applying pressure to get something to line up.


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« Reply #573 on: September 17, 2013, 08:30:34 am »
I mounted it in the wrong spot, I used the old silencer mounting location. You have it mounted where the subframe bolts to the frame correct?

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« Reply #574 on: September 17, 2013, 09:18:49 am »
Correct.  It mounts at the subframe attach point.

 

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