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Reed's what are the in's and out's.How to check.
« on: December 30, 2012, 12:39:01 pm »
How to tell if they are bad?What happens to my quad if they are bad?

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Re: Reed's what are the in's and out's.How to check.
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2012, 01:01:08 pm »
The reeds are behind the boot where the carb goes. What year is the quad here.87 had 5 bolt reed and 88 to 92 had 6 bolts reed boot. Either their is  6 bolts or 5 bolts to take the boot off.Then the reed cage is behind them.You will have to have new gasket for the reed cage.But when they are out they should be flat against the cage .No holes or chips in them..If you dont know what they look like search ebay or some site to see what they look like.
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« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2012, 01:04:32 pm »
I Done a bit of research and I know where they are now!What affect on an engine would it have if they are in bad shape?I think I have a gasket for it in the kit I got!Mine is a 1987

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« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2012, 01:15:20 pm »
They make the bike run.It helps with air fuel.Keep the gas from blowing back out in the intake.It pretty much like your valves in a stroke ,if you had broke it wouldnt run right at all.Flooding  slugish power .They let gas in on intake stroke and they shut on exhaust stroke.. Also if you had the stock reeds in the motor.I would replace them with a set of Boysen  replacement reeds.Their pretty cheap and they work alot better then stock.But you can get alot better cages for the money it just what you want to put into it.But if they never been change i would do that.24 year old  i say they are pretty worn out.
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« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2012, 01:25:21 pm »
Sounds alot like my bike!Alot of flooding hard to start and after my first good run she died while i was riding! I think new reeds and a carb clean is in order!Any one on here like to sell me some reeds?I live in ireland if that makes it any eaiser/difficult.

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« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2012, 02:01:09 pm »
Once you get your quad running right we expect some pictures of your best riding areas in Ireland....

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« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2012, 05:03:52 pm »
 Hey why dont you try to turn the gas on to fill the carb.For a few seconds.Then shut if off and try to start it with the choke on.If it starts and runs turn the gas back on.See if it floods out.But if it starts dont run it very long with out the gas on.Do this and let me know whats happens.I dont want you to do to many things at one time or we wont figure it out.Let me know asap after you do this and if its runs.
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« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2012, 05:33:37 pm »
I will give that a try!I could just be me starting it wrong as Its my first 2 stroke! Im not mechanically retarded its just I never worked on a 2 stroke before I built this one! Im not sure how good my compression is as I have no tester.Should I be able to push it down with my hand?Its not like It falls back with no pressure,It takes a little strain to push It and Has an ok bite when I kick.

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« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2012, 05:35:01 pm »
That will be no problem!
Cant wait to show It off! where I live is just miles and miles of hill ground!

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« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2012, 01:57:19 am »
Well the reason i want you to try this.Their is a o ring in the carb and iif it is bad it wont regulate the amount of gas the goes in the carb. Let me know if this help you or not tomorrow. Uf not will try something else. These are great old bike. I love them and wouldnt sell mine for no amount of money.I going to up load some pic of mine here soon after i can wash it,To cold and snowy to do that right now.
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Re: Reed's what are the in's and out's.How to check.
« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2012, 03:07:02 am »
When you're checking reeds, you want to note how much tension they have against the cage as well as physical damage.
Clean all of the oil off, then check tension...the oil can make the petals "stick" to the cage and act like they're being held down by tension.
Once it's clean, see if you can see daylight through any of the contact points or if they're at all loose.
If either is true, buy a new set of petals/reeds, they need to hold tight against the cage to provide a good seal and work properly.
You can lift the petals up with your fingernail and they should snap back in place.
If you notice that some make a dull snap or hardly anything at all, time to replace.

You can also take the plate that holds the petals on and look for deformities like you'd see in an old gasket that was over-tightened.
That's generally where the reeds lose their tension, right at the edge of the plate they'll form a groove.
If you see this on your reeds, it's probably time to buy a new set of petals (you don't actually have to buy the entire cage, you can simply replace the petals).

A good replacement reed cage to run would be the Vforce 2 or 3 (definitely the 2, some debate over the 3's), boyesons are a better reed than OEM, and I personally had excellent results with Boyeson's RAD valve.
I might catch some flak over the rad valve, but I used it on an 88+ cylinder along with a Q (at that time) 250 pipe and nothing else done to the engine to hit top speeds that some zillas never see.
They maintained their tension for probably 200hrs of my personal ride time, and they were used when I got them.
One of the best things about them was that they came with a nice aluminum intake boot with a thick rubber hose to mount the carb.
It smoothed out the intake tract considerably compared to a stock rubber boot.

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« Reply #11 on: December 31, 2012, 06:15:52 am »
Very informative!I went from not knowing a thing to knowing alot about reeds!
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« Reply #12 on: December 31, 2012, 11:42:30 am »
Did you try that start it the way i said with any luck.
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« Reply #13 on: December 31, 2012, 11:47:39 am »
I tried the way you should but I didnt even fire up to try!I done it the way you guys said with the choke in the correct postilion and 5 slow kicks to prime it kicked with the throttle closed,It sounds like it wants to start with throttle and it always ends up flooding.When I apply no throttle its doesnt sound like it wants to start if you get me

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« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2013, 02:47:11 am »
I did not read everything but if you have a running engine w a carb that probly needs a 10 minute clean and float adjust. You can only blame yourself for being hard on stuff and replaceing things that don't need attention. You could really use some friendly maintenance and tune-up advice w is best given by the Haynes manual. $25
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« Reply #15 on: February 22, 2013, 11:25:33 am »
^^^ I believe this is why he asked in the first place?
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« Reply #16 on: February 24, 2013, 12:59:31 am »
I did not read everything but if you have a running engine w a carb that probly needs a 10 minute clean and float adjust. You can only blame yourself for being hard on stuff and replaceing things that don't need attention. You could really use some friendly maintenance and tune-up advice w is best given by the Haynes manual. $25


You know he's not from the U.S. and it's really hard for him to get parts and info on these quads. So I say that why he asked us for help!!
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