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cylinder help!
« on: January 04, 2016, 06:14:40 pm »
Hi guys, new to the site. Just picked up a cpl lt250rs. One needed a "top end" I should have walked away from it. Found Jb weld painted over on the cooling jacket. No big deal ground it out, and sent it with my father to his work. I guess their Tig was broke so he went ahead had the shop next door do it. He forgot I asked him to measure it first. Well she' already at 69mm. I know they can be sleeved, but can they be bought cheaper ? Didn't see much on eBay. Any advice would be awesome. Also, what's a fair price to change a sleeve?

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« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2016, 09:51:10 pm »
A fair price as compared to what?  There are a lot of shops that install sleeves.  There are thin walled sleeves that are cheap and thick walled sleeves that cost about $50.00 to $75.00 more than the thin walled sleeves.  There are shops that take the time to do the job right and there are shops that rush through the job to try to compete with shops that advertise their services on Ebay.  It cost more to install a thick walled sleeve because of the additional time it takes to machine out ALL of the original iron sleeve and the additional time it takes to match the ports on a thick walled sleeve.  You can spend anywhere between $150 to $350 for the sleeve and the labor.     

Find a shop that has the proper equipment for the job and machinist that will do the job right

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« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2016, 04:39:08 am »
Thanks! I'm just trying to decide if its worth fixing or if I'm going to just part it out.

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« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2016, 07:16:13 am »
You definitely want to spend a bit more on a good builder.  I've seen sleeves slightly rotated in the bore and not chamfered to the ports.

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« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2016, 08:18:21 am »
I'm just wondering if I'm better off buying a different cylinder. My other 250 is in perfect shape. I may even part it out. I can't see throwing a lot of money at it. Swingarm is trashed as well.

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« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2016, 01:06:58 pm »
I'm just wondering if I'm better off buying a different cylinder.

Yes, if you can find a good clean cylinder for under $200 it will probably cost you less than getting your current one sleeved.  I may be off with the my $200 but that will depend on who you take it to.

If you want to repair the one you have then Jerry is right take it to a shop that does a good job and uses a thick sleeve.  If you are considering sleeving your current one, if you welded on it you probably need to check for warpage and depending on where the weld is you need to consider if the heat affected zone will make it brittle and more prone to cracking again in the future.   

Having said that I've seen some pretty goobered up cylinders run pretty hard as long as the decks are flat and the cylinder is not out of round.





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« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2016, 01:21:13 pm »
It was just in the cooling jacket, and done by a very good shop. I'm still waiting on the measurements.....defiantly going to make it right or not do it at all. I'll try to post a pic when I get it back. I'm a banshee guy, so these are new to me. Thanks for all the advice!

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« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2016, 05:37:06 am »
I have a cylinder with a new cool head, and has a fresh sleeve job.  I believe I even have the piston, wrist pin & bearings, the billet thrust washer too!  If you're interested pm me what you had in mind.  It's somewhere in my closet collecting dust. LOL I know I paid $450 for the cycling alone.  But I knew I was getting a quality job.  If I was you, I'd have Carl aka ICERACER, reinforce the cylinder, and really, I'd just send it all to him.  He's got the knowledge and means to do ALOT of things to make the 250 exactly what your looking for. 
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« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2016, 06:04:49 am »
Thanks! I have cylinder with bores left coming. This one is going to be a back up/ sons machine. I will def be in touch with him if we ever do any porting!

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« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2016, 11:28:41 pm »
One of these days I'm going to drop off my whole 250 and have him go through it.  I've done most of what I'm mechanically able to do, now it's time for a real professional to finish the quad.  My wife's going to graduate college in the next year or so, and she wants to walk across the stage.  Somewhere in w. Virginia...maybe that would be a good time to do so.
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