And Metal Tech is $460 for whichever swing arm I choose. Looks like one swinger they have is of stock length and the other definitely is longer. I wasn't able to find swingarms for my 85' 250R. I know they make one, but I can't find it on their site. From the looks of the metaltechs swingers, I'm already swaying towards them. They look light weight. And I remember seeing LSR's swinger before....they looked heavy to me but I can contact them tomorrow and ask for the weight. The one thing I loved about my stock swing arm assembly, was that it was really light in the back end. If I got stuck, I could just lift the back end up and give her shLt again. Lol.