Send me your contact info for the swinger so I can get pics for you. Sorry it took so long to get back to you. I've been really busy logging my land. Once the logger gets into my very secluded northern area, I will have him haul out the walnut tree I found for that violin. I tried getting it out myself and ended up cutting my leg 3 times trying to get it out of the deep ravine it's in. That things heavy! MASSIVE. I should go down in there and get you guys a pic.