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Keihin Carb Jetting Question
« on: June 11, 2013, 06:36:11 pm »
Alright i would like start by saying that i have a 1986 Suzuki LT250r and well im trying to dial in the 36mm keihin pwk carb to my setup. My mods are fmf exhaust, boyesen reeds, some port work on a 71mm bore. I have it running pretty well but it just seems to smoke lots of blue when it idles. All of the engine oil seals have been replaced. Jetting consists of a 165 main jet, 42 pilot, DGN needle clip in the middle. I also noticed that the air screw does not get any rpm fluctuation when i tighten it all the way in or back it out 2 turns. I have nothing clogging the jets i have cleaned the carb many times. It runs perfect 1/4 to full throttle. Im guessing that the needle diameter is to rich 0 to 1/4 throttle as my pilot and air screw do not respond. If anyone has any suggestions please let me know. thanks

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Re: Keihin Carb Jetting Question
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2013, 06:40:51 pm »
if your air screw isn't making a difference, then most likely you need to lean out the pilot a size or two, there is directions in how to tune these carbs under one of the 250 forums on here

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Re: Keihin Carb Jetting Question
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2013, 06:48:08 pm »
thanks and ya i did try that also. I had a 35 pilot the lowest you can get and still no change. Im kinda stumped.

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Re: Keihin Carb Jetting Question
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2013, 06:53:46 pm »
have u tried setting throttle slide just a hair above fully closed and adjusting air screw from there?

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Re: Keihin Carb Jetting Question
« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2013, 06:59:34 pm »
I want to keep the Keihin Carb but it just dont seem dial in perfect. I may have to go back to the stock Mikuni Carb  :( . The Keihin has awesome top end but is very lazy on the low end kinda sucks when i trail ride a lot. Still dont know why the air screw doesnt work?

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Re: Keihin Carb Jetting Question
« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2013, 07:05:25 pm »
yes i did try the throttle slide in many positions and the air screw does not respond . I did notice when i have the air screw 1 turn out and then turn it all the way in, the idle drops down a little which floods and then shuts off.

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Re: Keihin Carb Jetting Question
« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2013, 07:21:35 pm »
The air screw can be adjusted to make the engine idle at it highest rpm. If it idles at highest rpm at 0-1 turns the pilot is lean or if it idles at its highest rpm at over 2 turns out means that the pilot is rich. It does not want to idle up at all.

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Re: Keihin Carb Jetting Question
« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2013, 08:02:50 pm »
what are u mixing your oil too?  D? I wonder if it could be suckin alittle oil from the transmission side through the case halfs or somthin [|]

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Re: Keihin Carb Jetting Question
« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2013, 08:09:38 pm »
there is something different about kelhin carbs, try to send iceracer a pm
the air screw is different from a oe carb
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Re: Keihin Carb Jetting Question
« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2013, 09:19:12 pm »
actually you might be right changing the air screw could add more air but ya it has been trial and error with this carb. I want to freshen up the top end but cant untill its dialed in right.

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Re: Keihin Carb Jetting Question
« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2013, 09:25:31 pm »
zilla273 i have replaced the crank seals everything checks out okay, im just having trouble with the Keihin carb. I mix 32:1 and also tried 20:1 as the manual states.

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Re: Keihin Carb Jetting Question
« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2013, 06:26:25 am »
Unless the engine is racing/surging/ hanging  at Idle it's likely too rich Keihin's are EXTREMLY sensitive to Pilot settings. IF your doing all the jetting on a Tired engine your Pissin in the
 wind, It dosent draw on the carb correctly or move the correct amount of Air. I suggest you rebuild it and start where your at now. Also a incorrectly set up head Will cause you fits dialing in jetting especially at low rpms.

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Re: Keihin Carb Jetting Question
« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2013, 11:22:23 am »
You might be on to something there i have been running the same piston and bore for 2 years now but i don't ride it much because of the jetting. i was scarred of wearing down the cylinder. I pulled off the top end and i found the billet reed spacer halfway on there hanging by one screw. damn that could have been a disaster. but i think now i should either check the compression or rebuild as you said it might not be burning the fuel efficiently with low compression. I inspected the cylinder and there ain't a hair scratch on it. I still see the cross hatch hone left from the last time i did it when i replaced the piston rings. I just hope that 200 $ will solve the issue that i'm having with the carb not syncing in right.

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Re: Keihin Carb Jetting Question
« Reply #13 on: June 12, 2013, 11:26:46 am »
also the head is stock and looks flawless with no nicks inside, still has original tan paint on it. how much compression should i have?

 

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