Suzuki Quadracer HQ
Suzuki Quadracer HQ Discussion => Suzuki Quadracer HQ - General Discussion => Topic started by: Rider414 on June 16, 2013, 10:22:51 am
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To anyone who has parts at my shop, you can contact me on face book. All my sites have been shut down by my soon to be ex. I will be working to get things caught up, my contact number is 270 242 2449 if it don't get shut off to.
FYI to everyone that stuff at Hatfields. Sounds like Tiff is getting the BOOT.
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Whoops. Looks like some real issues going on there.
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Whoops. Looks like some real issues going on there.
Yeah, to say the least. I've spoken with Matt to a good extent, and he was completely oblivious to what was going on beyond the doors of his shop. That's about all I will say about that.... He has spoken with GoDaddy to get his site back up, and they told him that it will be a couple days.
Its pretty obvious, and safe to say that it looks like her intention was to drive his business, reputation, and his a$$into the dirt...
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wow I knew.something was up, she was supposed to sends me parts many times, and he kept telling me many times that he thought she had sent the stuff already thats explains its
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And you guys know how people have parts there for over a year? I bet it's only because she wouldn't ship them like she was supposed to and Matt had no idea!
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SOrry to see anyone get divirced, but not as sorry as I am to see a guy live with some like her and intentionallyl destroying his name and reputation and customer base. I woulod bet once he gets this behind him and that biooooch out the door his service shoulod pick back up provided he hearns from what hjappend and he under promises and over deliver and provided that he commnicates, comunicates communicates with the customer. I always heard matt did good work and was a nice guy----this latest to me reconfirms tha he still is and he was being stabbed in the back and taking it up from behjind by a aaa ah .....how would you describe her,.
If he does get an assistant monitor her close,,,
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If he really wants to save face, imprrress us, and keep his customer base he should post on here a big I am sorry guy..s--update what steps are being done in what priority to get people their parts back. His game plan to restoring our faith And a quick explanatioin to what the hell hapend. Own up to his short commings and appologize and change your ways---and where he got screwed by tiff--let us know so we dont blame him, WE all know a bitchy woman with an adjenda can be dangerous. Matt we all hope everything goes for the better for you and for our friends here on this site waiting for parts.
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Just think what Matt could do for his business if he had a sharp guy doing sales, shipping, accounting, and customer support.
He needs that guy!!
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Matt is welcomed here to post and chat about MHR anytime, the more the merrier!
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Anybody been able to get ahold of Matt lately? I've tried to call him numerous times for over a week with no luck. Does he have a new email address, since his old one is shut down? Thanks.
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I have 3 motors with Matt. Also sent money for parts to finish one of said motors. I am sorry. Its all fine and dandy if some of you honestly think one person ruined his business. But i have talked to Matt a few times and he has never came through on dates about getting the motors fixed or shipped.
I have gone through some nasty things in the past, Everything i let happen was my own fault. Just like when he decided he wanted to run a shop repairing motors and bikes for people he knew he would be responsible for everything entering and leaving his shop. Tired of playing this song and dance with him. I will give him one more call before getting serious on the matter.
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Things are also going down with me and matt. No more bull **** games. Next weekend my Dad and I will be driving down to matts (8 hours one way) and picking up my dads buddy (state cop in Kentucky) and he will be walking us through on how to do this the best way possible on our end. Matt's end well things wont be so good. But hey that's his problem. And after this is all said and done I will be posting a thread on step by step how my dads buddy walks us thru this situation and will be leaving phone numbers and names and such for people (the law) that helped us through the process.
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If anyone is taking a trip to Matts to pick up parts/motors, I would pay someone for their troubles to get my motor and parts as well and ship back to me... If anyone is close and making the trip, please PM me your #....
Thank you
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Pm sent Tony.
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This really sucks for you guys.. Some of the nicest people are being pretty much dicked around. You guys don't deserve this. DP, I need to get Racerx's # because he's got his racer motor and zilla motor with Matt. Also, CJ's 110.
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As I have not spoken w/ Matt (not for lack of trying), I don't know the whole true scoop on everything. I always try to give people the benefit of the doubt and believe most people generally try to do good. I have spoken w/ Matt over the phone before and through many e-mails, PM's, etc. He genuinely seems to be a nice, hardworking, honest person...from what I know.
I don't know the truth about all that is going on in his life right now from his mouth, so I'm trying not to make judgements. All I know is he has a motor of mine, and many new and pricey parts and has for a very long time. I am unable to communicate w/ him, but not for lack of trying. It seems he is unable at the time to commit to finishing what he said he could do in a more than generous time frame. At this point, I just want all of my parts back and am hoping this will happen and hoping he gets through whatever he is going through, and comes out fine in the end. No hard feelings, I would just like my stuff back.
DP... thanks man-I will contact you tom.
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The thing is. I called his work number for only a month. Then his wife gets on facebook after i left a comment. Saying i was a liar and there was no phone calls from my phone. YET i have every single call log in my cell phone . Sometimes i even called 2-3 times a day. When i mentioned that on facebook i got this response. ( look i will look on the caller id to see if you called sometimes calls goes un-answered)... Yeah some do. 2-3 times a day for a month? I don't think so.
While i know people go through hard times, As i have myself. I've done things i'm not proud of. But when this is your personal business this is how you put food on the table. You have to make do with what you have and keep working. It doesn't take much for him to simply call me with an update even once a month. That hasn't happened. I like Matt. I purchased that hybrid quadzilla and tri-z250 off him and he drove them from Ky To Ny for a 300 dollar delivery fee. He seemed like a super nice guy. But this song and dance is getting old, my feet hurt. My ears no longer like the music.
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dangerous power i too would be interested in chatting with you about my parts also
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Everyone that wants there stuff back just PM me your number and your real name so I know who Im talking to.
Jay please PM me Rob's number I will text him. Also CJ you gotta get over this silent treatment thing and PM your number so I can try and get your 110 motor back also.
-Sam
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I'm in communication with Matt on a pretty regular basis. I can't speak for others but I was literally 10 minutes from getting in my car and driving to his house and he sent me a picture of a package addressed to me and a tracking number. I got my cylinder, carb, new piston and someone else's head. Matt found my head last week it had nothing done to it (squish corrected or o ringed) Matt advised me he's missing the tooling to o ring it but could cut the squish and get it out ASAP. I know he's working to get people their stuff back from what he's told me. Anyone that's been through a divorce should know that the first few weeks are the toughest Matt is probably in a pretty shitty place mentally right now. I'm not defending him just saying I've been there and it sucks. It's no excuse to have someone's parts for months or over a year. It's also no excuse to ignore communication with people who have expensive stuff in your possession. I'm gonna be patient with my head for a couple weeks then my patience will be gone. I can't even race until August 10th anyway so I'm not in a huge rush anymore but I still want my head back.
I can also say that asking DP to get your stuff back for you is probably pointless. Matt has your stuff based on a civil agreement for services if he gives your stuff to someone else that then leaves him liable for the theft or damage to your parts I can say as a business owner I would never give one customer another customers stuff because it eliminates me from the chain of possession yet I'm still 100% liable.
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Doesn't hurt to try. When my Dad talks to the state cop today he will be asking if there is anyway possible where we can pick up your guys parts and get them shipped out to ya.
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Doesn't hurt to try at all and maybe Matt will be glad to get the stuff to someone who is willing to pick the ball up where he dropped it. I hope that's the case I'm just speaking from a legal standpoint it's not a smart move on his part but I hope he's to the point where he doesn't care and is willing to let you get everyone there stuff back to them. We've talked a lot Sam and you know I 100% back you in whatever you need to do to get your stuff back.
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Thanks Derrick and I appreciate it! If he is unwilling though maybe there is a way where you guys might be able to sign a waver or something saying Im liable who knows but hopefully I can pick up and ship out everyones parts for em!
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I talked with Matt's son yesterday, who is apparantly helping Matt out with phone calls and "getting his butt in gear" to catch up on all the work he has. He told me they had my stuff and several other things that were going to be shipped out the next day (today). Hopefully that is true and I got lucky, as that means it will actually be within their quoted time frame. I sent them my zilla cylinder and head for some porting and a new bore, and the head squish fixed and rechambered as well as o-ringed. They quoted me 4-5 weeks for the work, and if I get it back by the end of this week it will have been 4 1/2 weeks. As others have noted, they have been very hard to get ahold of lately. It typically has taken me calling several times a day for two or three days for someone to finally pick up. And that is with an alternate number (270-242-7712) that Matt's son usually answers (once someone finally does). The lack of communication is unfortunate and frustrating, but at least it looks like he is getting me my stuff back on time. We'll see how it looks once I get it back. Hopefully it is all done correctly. I can't imagine how frustrating it must be for those of you who have had your stuff with him for several months! Hopefully we all get our stuff back very shortly!
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He's got a 110 motor and $1500 worth of hard to find parts (the worst of which being the one year only 1969 SL90 transmission and the 1963 C90 manual clutch set up) of mine. Has had the motor since October of 2012 after I won the 'recruit new members' contest thing on the 2SC site where the prize was to have a 2-stroke top end done for free. Well Matt was like 'I'll hook you up with a badazz 110 motor' and was gunna throw in some extra work for free. Like lightened crank, lightened flywheel, custom points delete, doing the sub-trans cut out, custom intake as well as jetting, breaking in and dynoing the engine for me. All for free. Since he has had my engine I've bought a NOS Big Al's Performance Products 125cc 12:1 54mm big bore piston kit from him ($150) as well as sending him all the other parts I've been accumulating for the build. Basically as I bought something I had it shipped to him. Matt and I talked a lot and he even called me up on FaceTime to show me the piston kit and some other boxes of stuff from a shop he bought out not to mention all the advice he's given me and what he's taught me about engines so I've always considered him a friend.
See why I've never said anything?
I also bought an 87 ATC200X engine as well as an 84 XR200R 4-valve cam. He said he would ship it all together to get a better discount.
Right now I have a $500 rolling chassis sitting in my living room that I would love to continue working on but I need my engine back ASAP so I can get things built around it. They say that good things come to those who wait but I'm tired of waiting. All I'd like is to have all my parts and that 200X motor back here at home.
I talked to Matt not too long ago right after the Facebook status and we talked for a good while (I was fixing to go ride though so I cut the call short at like 30 minutes or some ought) and he told me my motor was all apart and on the bench and I've talked to his son on Facebook and he told me that he's seen all the parts going to it and that it looks like it should be a fun motor.
Like I said, I'm holding nothing at all against Matt about my situation because it was understood between the both of us that the work was being done for FREE and I told him myself that he didn't have to rush on it and that paying customers come first. But now I'm needing my motor and can't get in touch with him to get him to just ship everything back.
Did any of that make ANY kind of sense?! Holy hell I ramble a lot..
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i have my head and jug at matts 87 lt250r i gave hims a whole set of newway valve cutters for 60's porches as trade for the work and after that i still owed him 350 or so bucks i haven't heard from him in weeks ive tried calling him multiple times emailed him twice and have sent well over 100 fb messsages im getting worried very worried
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Look we all know life can get tough. No one is saying he's not dealing with some hard times right now. But what about before his *hard times*. I mean this seems to be a theme here. Even before i let him take my 3 motors i heard stories about him taking long periods of time and saying he would ship something out a certain time frame and not doing it. But i took my chance because he hand delivered two machines from Ky to NY.
I have talked to more than 6 other members on facebook who also cannot contact him , and have thousands of dollars worth of parts/motors/money there.
It sucks that all of this is happening. Because i really do believe he is a good guy and means well. But maybe this type of business isn't right for him. I have seen many people run perfectly fine stores when it was local only. Soon as shipping got involved i seen stores turn into rat holes. Something about having to ship so much each day makes people lag behind to a point where they owe so many people packages.
But blaming everything on his wife seems a bit far fetched. I know he didn't blame her to my knowledge it seems some of you think it was her ruining his business when that is asinine.
I left a voice mail yesterday. Told him to contact me at my home phone or facebook. Still have not received either. This is seriously getting old. Think it may be time to accept i lost 3 motors and around 200$ for piston rings and gaskets.
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Hes had my motors since Oct 2011. Some of you know i had my accident in oct 2011. I was air lifted to the hospital. I was in icu for 4 days. So i couldn't pay him right away for the work. He was understanding since i had hospital bills to pay and had around 4 months of rehab. So he said when i had the money just pay him.
I paid March 26th. ( i was cleared to ride again a little before then) He told me it would take one month to get it done. I have heard from his twice since then and i had to blow up his facebook in order to even hear from him.
To be honest i would take all my parts back and my money and be done with him. Either way i am done with him. IceRacer took much better care of me. Answering my text every time is sent him one. Explaining everything he was doing to my motor. Even drove it down to me and shot some bullshit for a bit. Super nice guy. I hope he still does work i will be using him next time.
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3.5 hour drive from me to him. I need to make the trip to pick up something too. I'll let you guys know before I head that way.
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Deebo when you plan on going? We should meet up and kick his door down! (not literally I hope) P*
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No kicking doors in with me. I don't think it would be a problem getting the parts. Just a matter of getting there
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It's not like he's holding the parts hostage, he just isn't getting them shipped out. I would appreciate it if one of you two could get my stuff and I'd pay for the shipping materials and all to get it all back here in the dirty south
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Im gonna try and do everything I can to get all your guys parts back to ya!
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Looks like my motor ain't getting done anytime soon. Hope he didn't sell the Trx motor he got to do the work. Or the other parts.
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Still no call back or any effort to contact me after leaving a voice mail. This time they can't say i never called because i actually got a chance to leave a message.
Has anyone been able to contact him the past month? I have not been able to.
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I've been in communication with him for the last month pretty regularly but I'm guessing that's mainly because I was the first one to make a lot of noise about the issues going on.
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Its getting to the point where i will print all my messages,e-mails,paypal statements. Will have to go through my local police department and file a theft claim and have them get in contact with his local PD.
Theres no excuse why he can't simply contact me after leaving my name,number, and a short message of what he has of mine. Its like hes scared to answer the phone.
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I got through to voicemail yesterday as well. I talked to him the day the Facebook status was posted but that was the last time since
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i just talked to him today
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I have called numerous times, but do not even get the chance to leave a voicemail...says mailbox is full every time....
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i just talked to him today
Curious as to what he had to say.....
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i just talked to him today
Curious as to what he had to say.....
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he said alot actually he basically said he just dropped of alot of stuff at the post office and then told me my parts will be shipped in a day or two. then he went on with how everybody is making up **** and how now he is just a bump in the road.
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Talked to the Kentucky state cop today. We are calling PA state police tomorrow. We have few options and talking with them tomorrow will narrow down what will need to be done. Will have more info tomorrow.
I think that is a load of BS Zach. I hope im wrong but he's lied to us all more than once why wouldn't he do it again!!
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It appears he only communicates with certain people on the phone, phone messages or emails. Does he also keep the door to his shop locked and only let certain people in to drop off or pick work for him to do? You have to communicate with prospective and past customers to stay busy no matter how busy you are at the present time.
Does his Paypal account still accepts prepayments for parts and services?
I have found that the one call you almost did not return could have been a missed opportunity of a life time or a very good customer. No communication.....no new work. No new work ........your business is just another failed business for the record books.
I was very busy and thought that the guys that left a phone message was just another window shopper. I almost did not return the call. We built enough product in four years and the profit from those products paid for the land and the 5000 square foot building where we still conduct our business. Commercial real estate is not cheap in big cities.
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For some reason i can't quote people. When i try it just fails to load anything.
But this right here.
*he said alot actually he basically said he just dropped of alot of stuff at the post office and then told me my parts will be shipped in a day or two. then he went on with how everybody is making up **** and how now he is just a bump in the road.*
A lot of liars out there then. I talked to a few people now not happy with the way hes handled them. Some can't get a hold of him period. Like me. If hes going to sit there and call people liars. Maybe we start a thread for all the people he lied to. We can post conversations e-mails whatever we have. Because i kept every e-mail every paypal statement. Every facebook conversation.
He came on and sure enough was fast enough to reply to me when i needed to send money for the piston/rings/gaskets. When i finally paid i stopped seeing him come on and i can never reach him.
Also i feel bad as i suggested other people to send him work after i bought the hybrid quadzilla and tri-z 250 off him. Now people i suggested him to have parts and money with him and they can't reach him.
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For some reason i can't quote people. When i try it just fails to load anything.
But this right here.
*he said alot actually he basically said he just dropped of alot of stuff at the post office and then told me my parts will be shipped in a day or two. then he went on with how everybody is making up **** and how now he is just a bump in the road.*
A lot of liars out there then. I talked to a few people now not happy with the way hes handled them. Some can't get a hold of him period. Like me. If hes going to sit there and call people liars. Maybe we start a thread for all the people he lied to. We can post conversations e-mails whatever we have. Because i kept every e-mail every paypal statement. Every facebook conversation.
He came on and sure enough was fast enough to reply to me when i needed to send money for the piston/rings/gaskets. When i finally paid i stopped seeing him come on and i can never reach him.
Also i feel bad as i suggested other people to send him work after i bought the hybrid quadzilla and tri-z 250 off him. Now people i suggested him to have parts and money with him and they can't reach him.
hey man you're probably right dont shoot the messenger i was just telling yall what he said. maybe i shouldn't of probably just irritated you more
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No, i know you were just repeating what you were told. The post wasn't directed towards you. But i see how it looks that way lol. Just when you have so many people claiming the same thing. How can you defend yourself and call people liars. I think it would of been easier for him to say, yeah i messed up. I need to make things right. But no, blame those liars! lol
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I know some Guys that deal in the head of Internet fraud division. (In Canada RCMP ) (Did not meet them on good terms :-X ... )
Don't know if they can Help , But I do have a check up meeting coming up soon and ill see if they can help you guys at all.
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oh alright i didnt know if you were yelling at me LOL. yeah he still hasn't admitted what he has done but if you guys need to find out about your **** friend request his son and message him tyler is a cool guy and got me all the info i needed lets hope matt actually send my stuff out. just don't be rude were all adults here besides CJ. just tell him our name and ask him about your parts he will tell you whats going on
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dude i see alot of he said she said crap here at the moment i dont think it was Matts fault at all! dude im telling you i got a hunch the this is tiff chit rolling down a hill and freaking everybody over man. from what Matts son just said he has everyone parts nothing was sold nobodys **** is held hostage. Matt is in the dumps. dude tiff didn't give Matt a warning or anything about the divorce she lost a bunch of weight through the years thought of herself as sexy ****. then packed her crap up and left before Matt even had the chance to ask why! man i dont think anyone could handle that a 10 year marriage coming down to no explanation of why shes leaving. Matts son tyler also said this about tiffany " Man we was moving work through the shop at an incredible rate and then she decides to get a job making $7.25 an hr ? And she was a really rude person, I was originally the one going to run the websites and she popped in and started bitching about it. So I let her do it. And well you see how that turned out. And she was lying about that and she has started a bunch of ****" then he said this heres are convo
me :so she would hold grudges against people that had parts at your dads shop
so everything is true motors being lost and sold because of her peoples parts going missing ??
tyler: Everything is true, I mean I know people are pissed and I'm sure we'll lose tons of business. But man she handled everything wrong. I ain't nothin special but I've solved some of the problems going on. And no motors have been lost or sold, Yeah Tiffany was good at lying about that. One day she sold some parts and didn't mention it to me or dad and we found out 2 weeks later after it screwed the account up. Everything is here fine and dandy. That's a promise
that's just abit of what we were talking about either this kid is lieing to me flat out or he is telling the truth and he is the one that got my part shipped out today right after i asked for it back yesterday. its for you guys to decide im gonna keep digging around and get more info about this whole chit pile we got going on
if anybody has a serious amount of chit at Matts and is super worried pm me with your name and everything you have sent him parts money etc i will see what i can do for you and get answers back to yall
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Again, its easy to blame one person for all your mishaps. I just talked to another guy on facebook tonight. He claims he has been waiting a year for his parts from Matt. There is no way she caused a years worth of delays on getting work done or/ parts sent out. Not to mention now that shes gone, why can he not answer the phone or re-turn phone calls. This all smells of ****.
I talkes to Matts son tonight. I asked if he could please get his father in touch with me. All i got was. ( I will do my best)
I should not have to contact the mans son to get answers or a phone call.
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Let me know how this pans out... I'm gonna start compiling my list of parts....thanks man
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I talked to his son. Like someone said to do. But his father still has not contacted me. I messaged his boy today again while he was on facebook. He saw my message because it says *seen with a time stamp* then he signed off right away. Caught him on again he didn't message me.
Its complete and utter garbage i have to contact a grown mans son to find out whats going on.
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So is anyone actually taking a trip to his house? I know a few people have mentioned it. But give me a pm if you are truly heading out that way. Thanks.
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Alright now i am officially pissed off. I have tried contacting his son who then told me he hadn't talked to his father.
BUT the kid just posted a new car his father just bought saying *dads new toy* if he has money and time to go buy a car and trailer it home he can find 5 minutes to give me a call.
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All Im gonna say is call the county sheriff! He is helping us and we need to follow up with him Monday. If all you guys call him he can see how serious matt is screwing everyone!
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I would like to pick everyone's parts up for them but I don't think I will be able too.
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Editing my posts giving Matt a bit more time,
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I don't have a dog in this fight but I certainly understand that bad business dealings have occurred. Might I suggest that someone talk to his local County Attorney's Office to file criminal charges. However, they may tell you to go through the local police or sheriff department first.
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El diablo my dad doesn't want to say anything till he follows up with him Monday but we may be doing that. but that is not confirmed.
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Someone who has parts missing might want to take the lead. Either on this post or a seperate post comprise a list of each member that has been affected by his poor business dealings, have a list of every part still missing, any money paid to him and what was to be done. Those involved then should begin to find any pictures of your stuf, check your banks for proof of what has been paid etc, start to create to the best of your memory dates and what what was said when and to whom.
If you have all that info compiled and presented together to local law enforcement or state district attorneys office they will take it more seriously and better understand the scope of what has happened and tell you what action to take or how they might help you.
I feel for Matt and what he is going through.....but there is no excuse for the lack of communication.....putting your head in the sand might be easy and comportable but it only compounds the problem. He should contact each person and say A) I lost your stuff--lets make it right B) Im behind but I still have it (include a picture as proof) and ask customer if they want it back or want to wait to have it done.--that one is obvious.
AND RETURN ANY MONEY PAID...
Something is so so wrong here---I fear if he had your parts still he would be contacting people complaining and communicating...I HOPE I AM WRONG. But one does have to wonder. Im sorry some of you have to go through this. IT HAS TO SUCK!!!
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I'm looking at some options to take a drive up there. It's a 700 mile, 12-hour trip for me but its too hard to list out everything that I have with him and some of the parts are near-irreplaceable.
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Honestly Matt seems about like the most straight up guy in the world. And the talk about criminal charges just seems like a little much. Maybe it really wouldn't be a bad idea to cut the guy a break for awhile and give him a little breathing room for awhile shoot. He has never screwed anyone before and I highly doubt he is gonna start now. Shoot when things went south with me and my ole lady I didn't do anything for a long long time. It's been two years and I'm just getting into the groove again. Maybe cut the guy a little slack. Have a little sympathy. Ya maybe he isn't answering the phone or messages. I tried to put myself in his shoes today. To truly put myself in his shoes. People are angry at him because their expectations are too high. I got a little upset too, I'm not gonna lie. I expected too much from Matt. Right now I hope he keeps his sanity, keeps promoting the sport, I hope he gets the site back up sometime, I hope he is taking care of himself. He is a good man. He does tons for the sport. He doesn't need this. And really if people keep getting him more stressed out its just gonna make it worse. How many of you know Matt? And for how long? He's not going anywhere, selling any parts. It's just a little slower and quite than usual. Maybe if you all just give the guy some space for a little bit. But I can tell you one thing. Calling the cops, and trying to get him thrown in jail is not gonna get a motor built. This guy I do do work for texts me twice asking the same question and it passes me off. Everyone blowing his phone up and all that. He needs to go fishing for a couple days even weeks weather you all like it or not. And it would be nice and thoughtful if someone could send him some rapalas or jitter bugs. Crawlers maybe. He is no different than us. As much as I want my motor done yesterday. I'd really like to see Matt taking a little break, having a cold beer and going fishing. He might just smile when he comes back? Maybe. And everyone else needs to go fishing too and take a little break.
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when i first heard of all of this going down, I sent him a message telling him i heard the bad news and to keep his chin up. Told him he would come out stronger in the end after all of this passes and said myself and others are there if he needs anything getting through this tough time. I didn't mention a word about my parts or motor at all. I told him to e-mail me back to make sure he was good and to just extend an offer out there. Weeks later, no reply and started to worry about my stuff. Now zero communication whatsoever and just starting to get a little nervous about it. A call or text or e-mail from him would put me more at ease. But I'm not getting that.... Can't help but think of Q's divorce, Scammy and all that went down after that....
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We all need to be careful what details we put out on an open forum from this point forward. We also need to consider that the dissolution of the divorce could be our worst enemy regardless of Matt's intentions. Divorces are expensive and can easily cost upwards of $20,000.00 or more. One might assume Matt is holding approximately that much in parts and cash from incomplete labor. If his new shop is leased and the rent is not paid we could lose that easily. If anyone gets him on the phone we need to get him to post here. He is likely to be visited soon; one would think. He is going through a tough time for sure, but it is time for a honest inventory status.
If we get our stuff back I for one can't condemn him, the guy does good work cheap. You get what you pay for.
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Patrick, I understand you completely. The problem is that he is in a business situation. He is not doing the work as a favor, but for profit. I went through the big D myself a few years back. But I wasn't the one responsible for working on paying customers parts. Although it can be a cloudy situation at times, your customer has to come first if you expect to run a successful business. If not, a business will follow along with the marriage, down the drain.
Besides that, I think we are tired of hearing the divorce excuse from another builder -->
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I'm not even mad at Matt, man. I don't want to have to go to legal steps to get my stuff back because like I said before, I consider Matt a friend. I still do even after all this. I mean, hell. I really don't think he would sell our parts out from under us. When I talked to him te day the post was made you could tell the guy was just tore down. I feel bad for wanting to go to measures just to get my parts back.
But the 'business owner' aspect comes back. And the 'divorces are costly' aspect as well.. I've got adult friends who lost everything in divorces. And that's tickling the back of my mind all the time....
Hopefully I can find someone willing to split the drive up there. I'd like to talk to him in person. We can say all we want behind a key board, but face to face it all comes out ya know?
I've said my piece for now. I'll be checking back for updates but I mean there's nothing else to really say here on the boards anyway. We will just have to ride this one out y'all. See where the river takes us. Kansas comes to mind 'All we are is dust in the wind' haha lmao,,,, man I don't need to be forum surfing, talking about serious matters at 1 in the morning (ok, 12:40)
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You guys can give him more time but I've been nice and giving him more time for months now and look where it's getting! Matt not getting my parts out is affecting MY life. This whole spring and summer I have not been able to ride my quad with my friends because he is taking WAY to much time to ship parts. Today my father is checking up with the county sheriff and we are taking next step.
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Giving him more time is honerable of you......a phone call, an email a status update of your parts would be honerable from him....
You know, you can still get the sherif involved to access the situation and get your parts or verify they are there WITHOUT taking any legal action to create problem for matt if they are not justified. If you go there with the sherif and he does not have parts, wont return money paid for services not provided then at that point you know what you are dealing with and if necessary can take appropriate legal action at that point.
You need an accounting of your parts , PERIOD! If matt wont provide that with communication then pay him a visit with sherif to record and verify what is going on. Matt may simply may hand over your parts and money. Human nature at this point is to assume the worst. He may have all your parts sitting on a shelf, he may not....its time to stop HOPING---and start finding out. Getting a sheriff involved does not get him in trouble with the law, It may save him from lots of legal trouble and more drama in his life. Just my .02 Jou each have to do what your heard and head tell you is best for you.
I express all this, only because I have been through the EXACT same thing and it didnt end well. Had I taken action sooner, it would have been better.
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I will be home in about 1-2hours with some news. Everyone please refrain from bashing the guy until he has a chance to make it alright. I was there today everyone should message him on FB What belongs to them, name, address, email, phone numbers, ect....pm me the same info if you wish me to help facilitate.
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Well I get home and my net is acting up so here goes from the phone. Showed up at Matt's this morning and I will tell you the guy is down and out but not a thief. I don't think he is planning to start working in his shop for a bit and understands that most will want parts returned. I offered to help facilitate and plan to come back over this Wednesday and START shipping. If this plan works for you guys I could collect shipping costs via paypal as we go. The Sheriff Rick Clemons (not cummings as mentioned before) happens to have been a successful GNCC racer in 93-94. He knew Hawk, Ballance, Yokley, and he has known Matt most of his life. He told me Matt was talented and honest, sometimes drags his feet. In his situation I can see why he is overwelmed. He told me Tiffany took all the notes, receipts, and contact info when she left. As I posted earlier use his FB profile and yes there are two of them. One has his middle name "Neil" as the middle name. Send in what you have with him, full contact info and shipping info. Work out any details with him and keep me posted as well so I can back it up and see it through with him. Please play nice and dont bash or badger him right now. He wants everyone to get their stuff back and I believe that is gonna be ok. Bashing is not going to help right now. Pm me phone numbers to text and then I can add contacts and parts lists...send pics if at all possible.
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Major props to Stephen for helping us out and doing this. Not many people would go completely out of their way for others they only know through a keyboard. The drive time, the gas, the effort, and your time. Stephen, I owe you big time for doing this. Not a lot of good people out there that would be this helpful for others. Truly appreciate it! Good karma coming your way....
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Thanks for the kind words, we aren't completely out of the woods just yet but everyone please be patient. Don't bother with Matt's former email until he gives out a new one. She has control of that.
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I talked to Matt today, didn't seem to get anywhere. Will try talking to him again.
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Damn you should've told him he needs to call the county sheriff back.
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Ya sorry man. I been buggin him a little bit today. I think I'm gonna be pretty happy with the outcome of this. He didn't do the pipe that I didn't want anyway. A hondzilla? Who puts a zilla motor in a honda? If he did anything to the motor I'll be happy as hell. Especially if it says MHR on the side of it! It the head is cut great. If not no big deal. If it's apart or together, who cares. If the trans isn't back cut I'll send it in and have done. If the crank hasn't been done yet the dealer can do it no problem. Now to figure out how to put a honda front end on an 86? It seems no one has the balls to answer that question. A square peg in a round hole? Anyone care to give it shot yet? Cmon
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Dangerous. You asked me not to discuss anything with Matt that you told me. So i didn't mention anything about any country sheriff.
I would like for Matt to actually make good on our deal. I already paid him for the parts he had to order. Which i hope he did indeed order. I am not relaxing one but on the situation though.
Also, when i did talk to him, i got excuses.Not once did he say this is my fault i will make it better.
Regardless, he can either finish my motor in a timely manner. Or he can send me ALL my parts back. As well as the parts i paid for. After the attitude i just got on facebook today. I am not going to be patient and give him the benefit of the doubt now. He should know damn well people are upset. He runs a business of building motors and giving us a service. Hes going through a hard time sure i get that. But doesn't mean you can stop working and leave customers hanging without even so much as a check up call for months.
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C:-) Listen up you two -->, you aren't going to make this any easier for anyone by spouting off D? from this point forward. I was there today. I know more now regarding his situation and I have been in a somewhat similar place, actually within the last few years. I will forever hold back what exactly went down today but I will tell you it wasn't as simple and pretty as my previous post might have made it sound. You want to show up and get your stuff then by all means make that trek. But for respect of others who right now are somewhat relieved that the man says everyone's parts are still there, please zip it! (Y)
Matt claims to have full intention to return these belongings if that is what people want. If someone wants to talk to him about finishing engines ect... then hash it out with him via FB for now. If you want help getting them back via shipping then allow Matt a chance to organize those parts once he has communicated with you and I will make the trips needed to get him to the nearest town as he gets things together and verify everything possible. I met Matt nearly a year ago when I dropped mine off to him at a ride park near him. I happen to live 1hr 10 minutes from him. I had not seen him again until today. The best way I can describe him right now is overwhelmed. I hope we can get a couple (at least) accomplished this Wed. So my advice is play nice, suck up your pride and be encouraging not threatening just yet. I'd rather not pick a bunch of stuff up and take it myself to ship due to any liability and confusion, although that would be much easier than driving several 3hr+ triangles until it is done(on top of the 2hr round trip commute I make to work each day). I can tell you that demographically his location is challenging from the standpoint of convenience to run such a business whether it be for shipping, tools, parts, supplies ect... The fact that he has turned out the work he has primarily building reliable old suzuki's S~ and with that built enough reputation to get all of us to bring him business is due a little respect still. Lastly we all probably agree that he has not handled this well and lately has not shown the fortitude to make much of a start at fixing it, but consider this: If I told you that our stuff is an egg and handed it to you on the plate asking you to cross the room holding the plate out in front of you, please don't be the jackarse that uses the plate to fling the egg on the ceiling before taking the fist step. 0>me
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Well said. Didn't quite catch the egg on a plate reference but I think I got the just of it HAHA!
Thank you again for your help
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I am not spouting off. But you are asking people to be patient and let him communicate. Which we all just wanted communication to begin with. That's fine you drove there and saw first hand. The rest of us have to take your word. Sorry but i don't know you.
Also i didn't threaten Matt once. I told him if things can't get squared away in a timely manner i would have to go the legal route. I think that's perfectly reasonable. He gave me a time frame. BEFORE all of these problems popped up. Also even before his issues he was not so good at communication. So most of us don't want to hear it.
But if all i get is attitude and excuses i don't have much confidence in this. It took someone driving to his house to get him to communicate with us? That's complete garbage.
I have told my local detective that i would not like to pursue legal actions at this time due to actually getting in contact with him. I think that's fair enough. Even though i have not been able to communicate with him. I'm yet again trusting Matts word, saying he will get me my motor. We shall see how things go. Because i would be happy with the motor he promised me, or just sending everything back. But i think its complete bullshit people have to pay return shipping because he couldn't come through on deals he was contracted to do. So people are wasting money sending items to him and back. I'm sorry but its not cheap to send a motor both ways TO HAVE ZERO WORK DONE TO THEM.
Last motor i shipped costed me about 120$ so you expect people to be ok with losing money from shipping it both ways, having no work done to said motors, and also have been waiting months just to lose money?
Like i said, i was totally fine waiting for my motor till i posted on Matts facebook and other random facebook people started messaging me, asking if i got a hold of him, then telling me what they've been going through with him. Doesn't make you feel warm and fuzzy inside when you have motors and parts and money with a guy you can't reach for months at a time.
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Were you JHayes on QRHQ? No I am on over 15 forums and use the same name although usually all caps.
87Quadzillaowner:
I don't disagree with what steps you have taken. When I return there Wed. I plan to photo everything he has and then we can have some idea what we are dealing with. If you cannot hold out until then I don't blame you for taking other means you seem fit. However in communicating to him via FB or posting anywhere right now please try a cordial approach which I have good reason to believe will go a long way for us all. I simply cannot just show up and get yours or I would. Sorry if I was pointing anything too harsh your way, I would feel the same way if I were in your shoes but trust me on one thing if we are all tactful, then expect progress. The loss of return shipping sucks, my stuff isn't exactly (nor what I loss today for my effort) how I hoped but I am glad things weren't worse. I want to see everyone get what is theirs, I would hate to be in your shoes right now. Just trying to pay it forward dude. Also you and I didn't PM Saturday or Sunday like a few others did. I am sorry for that, I tried to reach who I thought had stuff but was very busy in between work and my Son.
As far as the goofy egg scenario, our parts and this situation is like an egg. The goal is to get it across the room safely. Give it a chance. 2c
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Were you JHayes on QRHQ? No I am on over 15 forums and use the same name although usually all caps.
87Quadzillaowner:
I don't disagree with what steps you have taken. When I return there Wed. I plan to photo everything he has and then we can have some idea what we are dealing with. If you cannot hold out until then I don't blame you for taking other means you seem fit. However in communicating to him via FB or posting anywhere right now please try a cordial approach which I have good reason to believe will go a long way for us all. I simply cannot just show up and get yours or I would. Sorry if I was pointing anything too harsh your way, I would feel the same way if I were in your shoes but trust me on one thing if we are all tactful, then expect progress. The loss of return shipping sucks, my stuff isn't exactly (nor what I loss today for my effort) how I hoped but I am glad things weren't worse. I want to see everyone get what is theirs, I would hate to be in your shoes right now. Just trying to pay it forward dude. Also you and I didn't PM Saturday or Sunday like a few others did. I am sorry for that, I tried to reach who I thought had stuff but was very busy in between work and my Son.
As far as the goofy egg scenario, our parts and this situation is like an egg. The goal is to get it across the room safely. Give it a chance. 2c
You sound pretty sincere to me, give him a few days guys. And start trying to come up with a list of parts sent, parts payed for and $$$ sent for machine work/services performed. Pictures will definatly help sorting all the parts.
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Garret, Stephen is a long-time member on other TRX forums.... good guy w/ a good reputation. After all of this I'd have to say at least GREAT guy!
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Guys keep glue to here and the cell phones from tonight through all day tomorrow for the sake of communication.
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Hayes did you get my message withy cell number?
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Dp how long have you been waiting on your parts.
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Well the top end I shipped WAY back in 2012 sometime ( I forget exactly when).
The front clip I paid for on april 3rd same as the swingarm. Now it should take no more than A WEEK to box up parts and ship them out and I still don't have all the parts. The swingarm I paid the same time.
Now the deal on it is he gave me a deadline. 1 month. Well it turns out EVERYTHING was supposed to be shipped early in the week before memorial day weekend so I could go ride with my buddy's. Ya well that didn't even come close to happening and 4th of july weekend is now gone too!
But let me ask you a question. Does it matter how long I've been waiting on my parts or how many false deadlines Ive been given MANY of these dead lines now and Im tired of it. If it was gonna take a year then tell me that don't lie to me. And beginning of the month everything was supposed to be done and shipped within the week. Next week rolls around nothing is shipped no word from Matt I get ahold of him then he spills the beans and lone behold lied to again.
See unlike some of you I don't play games, and matt is just playin his game with some of you.
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Hey DP did you typo when you typed that I could not return a sheriff's call? Please explain.
(1)My work and my Son is 1 hour to the northeast from me and Matt is 1 hour ten minutes south west from me. I'm about to spend my only week day off for two weeks and leave my son (whom I have to beg for the extra time with his mother) with family to get something done tomorrow. He won't be riding his CRF50 with me tomorrow or go fishing ect. I am not pleased with getting my assembled running engine back in 3 boxes of scattered parts and some new top end parts for my $400 cash but it is better than the worst I feared. If you can't figure out where I stand on this situation by now then you aren't worth acknowledging from here on. I'm fine with helping those that want me to, and fine with those that will go a different direction. I stated before that I met Matt once when I dropped mine off approximately a year ago as well. You think I am swinging from his nuts? I feel sorry for the guy and believe that he should have cut off taking in so much and could have done things different to prevent some of this mess (should have seen some of it coming). I also believe that **** do what they do....****.
(2)Now I was getting worried but we did make plans for me to meet up over there in the morning and he confirmed that just about sundown this evening. He like me is iffy on whether or not it would be better for me to take every ones stuff at once who wants me too and ship it myself to save some trips and make people feel better about getting it away from him right now, but guys he isn't out to steal it and would eventually get to working on it again if things stabilize. That is a risk either way we all know. I am to compile the PMs and texts from those who expressed the desire to have me help and making a master list to him once I hit this post's reply button tonight so he can finish organizing all.
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DP thanks, I just popped another grey hair. Can you try to answer my question for you now? Did I miss a call from your Sheriff also? Or was that a typo?
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Gentlemen, I understand everyones frustration in this matter but lets keep this thread civil. If HayesTRX250 has the ability to get parts back, then the extra week or two of time he is asking for is not too much to ask for. With that being said, if it goes any longer than what is reasonable, then yes, everyone is entitled to contact the sheriff. Dangerouspower, you have every right to take your matter to the sheriff. However, it might be quicker to coordinate your efforts with HayesTRX. But the ball is in your court & nobody will fault you for taking your own action.
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The issue is, he took on so much work. Now doesn't even know what belongs to who. He obviously isn't cut out for having his own business.
I will talk with Hayes, i hope he can help me out. He seems like a truly nice guy. Hes wasting his time, and money to help complete strangers out. I don't think its fair to him actually he has to take on the weight of this to help us and Matt out.
But here is the issue i see. Those of you that have paid for labor already, and he didn't do any of the work. What do you do now? If hes broke and has no money? ( But is trading raptor 350's for project muscle cars?) Even if you take a stone to court, you won't get blood from it.
Heres another issue, say Hayes does get our parts. Alright, what Matt claims is our parts. We pay him to ship the parts to us. Turns out the box is missing a mess load of parts? Wouldn't the liability go to Hayes who took the parts from Matt in the first place?
I would tread carefully. I don't want to see anything like this happen.
James
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Guys like I just pointed out in a frustrating Pm reply, I was asked about an hour ago to look back through all the PMs and Texts to produce shipping addresses for each of you. I know I asked for that to be sent to me via PM or text and to Matt via FB (which I can't say happened or not). I asked for that more than once, I think on this open thread (too tired to find it now) and for sure on PMs and Texts. Guess what, not a single one of you produced an address in preparation for tomorrow, no matter how this was gonna play out.
I think you are going to get a new line of contact within several hours figure out how to handle shipping costs and hopefully you can remember where you live or some safe house to receive your parts that must not be worth $60-$100 to get back.
I for one was advised by my old man to get my crap and get home. Why worry about you guys he asked. Let them deal with it theirs. If I made this worse for any of you I am sorry. A couple of you were great about this and couple of you were too hung up on why I tried to make Matt realize he should try to save face (I know a loosing proposition from the get go with some of you) act now. I guess you couldn't understand why I would try like my old man. By the way my answer to him was that to me, that was the difference in our character.
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How many engines and how much in prepayments does Matt have form guys from other sites that we do not know about. I bet that ALL of his customers/prospective customers are not members on this site.
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The change of possession from Matt to Hayes doesn't make Hayes liable my agreement was with Matt so if Matt were to give my parts to anyone for them to send them to me on his behalf Matt is still liable. This why Matt messaged me on Facebook saying... Well ill just copy and paste it
Derrick I will have your head out this week, do you think you can send the head back , I know who's it is. There is a guy named Stephen Hayes trying to get me to give him everyone's parts he says he is going to ship them. But I'm not I don't know him that good.
I have a screen shot of the convo if nobody believes the pasted in message from Matt. Like I've stated previously it makes no sense for Matt to give someone else's parts to someone they don't belong to. And it appears as though Matt won't be doing that. I've talked to Matt and he is trying to get people their stuff however he's over loaded with people blowing him up am everyone demanding stuff back all at once I would be to in his shoes. I'm not justifying or defending him just so that's clear I'm just saying I understand the situation he's in. I believe it could be handled better and Matt and I have talked about that so far he hasn't taken my advice but you can't force a horse to drink.
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MotorGeek, i have talked to 6 people not from here.I had random people messaging me after i posted a snotty comment on his facebook. All with stories like the ones you're hearing here.
( I will ship your stuff on said day, said day comes nothing shipped) People are tired of false promises including me. I got a little hot headed and said some nasty things on here, i'm sorry for that. I also trusted a facebook user with a personal message from here, i guess he sent to to someone then it got to Matt. I had no intentions of that happening, i just wanted people to be aware of what was happening.
What bothers me is. Some people are defending him after being lied to so many times.
Doesn't the saying go, fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me?
Is there a third time with a saying? A fourth? A fifth? Some of these guys have been promised multiple shipping dates with no packages yet.
I'm just going to stop posting in this thread, because i'm letting my emotions post for me. I'm saying things and goofing up like i normally wouldn't.
Also buckeye, Matt told me. He would give Hayes my stuff if i wrote him a letter saying he could hand over all my belongings to Hayes, thats the only way he would do it. The second i would of sent that letter, then Matt gave him my parts... Yes that would make Hayes liable . Because i had to give Matt written permission to do so.
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No but, i thought Matt told everyone that? That's what he told me.
This is what he said word for word. ( if you send me a sighned notorized letter i will let him pick it up)
So i just assumed that's how the whole deal was working.
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Gentlemen,
From here on out, lets keep the posts in this thread about progress towards getting this issue resolved. No need to bash anymore.
There's absolutely no reason to turn on each other. You all are on the same side with a common problem. Any other issues, please take care of them via PM.
Hayes, thanks for taking the time out of your schedule to help resolve the issue.
D?
I'll be cleaning up thread and doing away with posts that don't help the situation.
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Gentlemen,
From here on out, lets keep the posts in this thread about progress towards getting this issue resolved. No need to bash anymore.
There's absolutely no reason to turn on each other. You all are on the same side with a common problem. Any other issues, please take care of them via PM.
Hayes, thanks for taking the time out of your schedule to help resolve the issue.
D?
I'll be cleaning up thread and doing away with posts that don't help the situation.
Great Job, Thank you Q2W suzukiquadracerhq
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Thanks Q2W. I've seen monkey sh (pg) t fights in zoos more organized than this!
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If someone has a phone # I can reach Matt at, please PM me with it if your could. I believe he has, or was getting a new number...thank you
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270 242 2449 is his shop number.
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He told me he was getting a new number in his words
I will post my new number tomarrow if it is on
That's was from last night he never sent me the number today so not sure if he got it or not.
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Anyone have any positive updates?
He told me he would give me a picture of all 3 totes he has of mine.Showing all my parts. So i know he still has them. He said he would have the pictures today (Friday). He lives where he works. So if he can't even provide a simple picture by today, then something is obviously wrong.
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Wednesday early morning (1:44 am to be exact) I was told my cylinder head was done and would be sent out this week. Yesterday I was told he was gonna try to make it to FedEx. Still no tracking number or confirmation that it shipped.
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Alright, keep us posted. I will do the same when i get an update.
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K well its now almost time for me to sleep. Still no contact from Matt like he promised. No picture of my stuff. I guess its a five man job to take pictures, sucks being short handed.
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Where's Hayes? Aint heard from him yet. Or Matt.
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Well I can tell you my cylinder head that on Wednesday "was going out this week so go ahead and send the incorrect one I sent you back" didn't leave Clarkson KY. If I wasn't spending tomorrow at kings island and sky diving Sunday I'd just drive down and get it this weekend. Oh well guess I'll wait a little longer.
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I would suggest if you want to talk to Hayes PM him. Not being rude but he will tell you why he doesn't want to post in here anymore if he feels necessary.
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Still zero contact from Matt. Anyone have any positive updates?
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That's a big negatory from me, Big Ben, c'mon.
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Talked to Matt yesterday told me he's been getting wisdom teeth out. I asked if he was gonna get my cylinder head out this week so I could get it cut for o rings locally and if I was going to have to pay for that twice since I paid him to do it and now will have to pay a local machine shop to do it. No reply to my questions.
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Didn't he only charge like $20.00 bucks?
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It was a bundle price of $325.
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Hey another excuse! Same song and dance.
He promised me pictures....PICTURES, he lives where he works. He promised me pictures by the past friday, that gave him 4 days to get me pictures of my stuff. Yet still couldn't come through.
He mus of had 8 or more wisdom teeth pulled the past 5 days. Other wise there is no excuse.
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Buck---you could have had my head o-ringed and been riding for two weeks now! :) All Yall's situations suck---hay southern guys, did I say that right. I lived 2 years in tennesse but I forgot how to speak southern. ( or even properly spell tennessee now).
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HAHA! Yea you got it ride man! On BOTH counts.
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This is true Mike! Dang it I completely forgot about buying your cylinder head. Been so busy with wedding crap and work.
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Alright guys, I think its time to start a new thread, keep it on topic. Only post items owed to you, as well as the situation of whats owed, and the whole story you have been dealing with.
He contacts certain people, and leaves others in the dark. He can't even provide a picture. I am now seeking the legal route. He took the motors from my property in New York when the deal was made. I have a strong case that would more than likely require him to be mandated to New York court hearings if i do press the matter.
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They were saying something about that to me and Im in PA.
But the sheriff said we had to wait until Wednesday to pursue because his mother told him (the sheriff) that she and Matt will be shipping everything out within 1 week. I know I didn't even hear any updates from Matt, I cant even tell you exactly when (w/o checking facebook) I talked to matt last because he will not respond to me. Tomorrow we are following up with the sheriff no more waiting.
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I'm done waiting to. If you believers out there are ok with being lied to and having empty promises on shipping dates thats fine. I myself, will not be led on a wild goose hunt again. He told me one month back in March, i gave him more time every time he said he needed it. I even sat back and waited and gave him time to just come up with pictures.
I don't care what hes going through. He has time to pick up chitty looking muscle cars and trailer them home. He can find an hour a day to ship out items out, and excuse my language. But this guy is a real piece of work.
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He's a non motivated a-hole for sure and it's all gonna come back and bite him in the azz for sure!
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Is he using you prepayments to buy muscle cars and support his other habits?
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Class Action Lawsuit? I see one in the future.
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I have no idea what hes doing with payments, He claims he ordered my piston/rings/gaskets/main bearings/seals with the money. Yet still can't provide a picture of it, nor pictures of my motors there.
When i said i would send him money to send back 3 totes, he told me it was 50$ a tote, and wanted me to send a money order. When i said no i want to be covered and use paypal. He told me he can't use paypal. GEEEEE, i wonder why. Paypal may not always cover you, but i was going to use a credit card incase my motors didn't show up i could dispute the charge for a cash back.
Either way, more and more people are getting fed up with the lies. Two other members said they are contacting his local police department. I hope they do. If more people talk to the Sheriff they will understand the problem is much bigger than 1-2 guys waiting for stuff.
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No updates from anyone?
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My head was shipped yesterday.
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Can i ask how you are contacting him. Via phone or e-mails, possibly facebook?
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Facebook
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Nice, yet i been messaging him on there he can't even provide the pictures HE promised him self.
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Well he already sent the majority of my parts back and all he had was my cylinder head but I had someone else's and I'm pretty sure he needed it back but I'm not sending it till I get mine.
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Yeah im pretty sure he sold most my motors/parts already. He did run an ATV salvage after all.
Monday is my meeting with the Detective. I have to bring video from my surveillance system. Yes i keep all my data stored on external hard drives. So i have proof he did indeed take my motors from New York State.
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You gave him the motors as payment for services right?
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Yeah, but he said he wouldn't sell any of the parts until my motor was done. I have the messages if you would like to see.
He also told me just last week he had it all still and would send it back for 50$ a tote. So i asked to see pictures of it all. Yet he can't get me pictures, but was fast to ask for shipping money?
If that doesn't found fishy then i don't know what to tell you.
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I don't need to see messages but I can tell you what the detective will tell you. You entered into a civil agreement for services and payment was engines you'll have to resolve the issue in small claims or civil court. I'm willing to bet Matt still has your engines if he's willing to ship them back. I also know he's about broke so would need money for the shipping because since you're asking for all your stuff back why would he pay to ship it back to you? That'd be like me paying someone money then asking them to pay $150 to return my money and the stuff they were supposed to work on.
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Ok first of all. I told him i would pay for return shipping the second he provided me with a picture of all my stuff.
Second of all. Yeah we agreed on a deal. He also told me it would take one month. His deal to me was one month. I even paid for parts. 200 dollars worth.
So if he cant even supply me a picture of my 3 motors and the 200 dollars of parts i paid for, why on earth would i keep sending him money for false promises?
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Don't get mad at me dude just trying to give you some advice that you're wasting your time with a detective. What's your name ill message Matt and see if I can get any head way made for you if you'd like since he does talk to me.
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James, from new york. He will know.
As for the detective. I will still try that route. He took the motors from my house. On a verbal and written deal we had online. Its all in text. He hasn't made good on the deal. In fact its pretty much theft at this point. I have no updates or proof hes even touched the one motor. I have no proof he actually ordered my parts i paid for.
This whole thing can be over. All he has to do is gather all my parts, take a picture. I will send him money to ship the stuff out. He never has to hear from me again. But, if he can't prove he has my stuff before Monday, i will be filing paper work out with the detective.
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Ill see if I can get him motivated for you. And everything you just told me will land you directly in small claims or civil court. You have zero grounds for criminal charges and that's what the detective will tell you. I know it sucks but Matt didn't just come take your engines with or without your knowledge he took them based on the preface that services were due in return for the motors.
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We will see, i will pursue every option i have. Since the deal was made in New York State, He would need to show up for NY court. Now showing up puts a bench warrant out for your arrest, which does carry over state to state.
He could make this all go away by actually doing what he says he's going to do. Instead of lying like a child.
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I'm sure they'll extradite him to NY for a civil suit bench warrant. I'm just letting you know as soon as you tell a law enforcement officer you had an agreement for services or a sale they'll direct you toward civil or small claims court. If you lie and make it out like theft took place when there was a civil agreement in place then your on the hook for filing a false police report.
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I wasn't going to lie. I have to print our conversations out for the detective.
The theft comes in where he can't even provide pictures. The agreement was one month. Even after one month i was nice and kept talking to him and giving him time. Even recently i gave him more time just to come up with pictures? Also he hasn't shown me what my 200$s bought.
If he already took my other motors as payment. Then i want my complete motor NOW. Because the agreement was, he took the motors as payment. The service he contracted with me was suppose to take one month. Not months of lying and no communication.
If i have to go to small claims or whatever i will.
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I hope you get your stuff back. I been waiting a year myself and have nothing to show for it. this whole thing makes me sick to my stomach.
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A few points to bring to the table. Does anyone know if his business is structered as a corporation or is he just a dba? How his business is structured will make a difference in all of this. Let's assume Matt has a legit business as in paying business taxes as Matt Hatfield Racing and is also set up as a corporation. He is going thru a divorce and she will most likley give the judge a story about how she was a big part of the business and helped build it blah, blah, blah. Then she will either want part ownership or for Matt to buy her half of the business. It's possible he is running the business into the ground to either lessen the value of the business or he plans on making a train wreck of it then handing it over to her and laugh as he walks away. Going on the assumption above that he has a structered corporation you will be taking Matt Hatfield Racing to court, not Matt. As far as the law is concinered you made a deal with Matt who represents Matt Hatfield Racing. As crappy as it is all he has to do is file bankrupt and any judgements against him are put on hold, the companies assets, if any are sold and the judge decides who gets how much if anything for the selling of the business assets. It would be possible then to take Matt himself to civil court but depending on how his business was structured it would prob be a fruitless effort. This is all assuming his business is structured as a llc. Been thru something similar in the past as have a few friends. I lost close to 5k in the deal. I hope everybody in this deal comes out ok in the end.
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Yeah, but my deal with Matt was before he even had his own business, that's how far back my deal goes with him. He picked up the motors around oct 2011.
So i would be taking Matt to court, not the business. Since he was an agreement/deal between two individuals ..
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I'll just see him in court. No worries.
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Hey at least I got you some pictures! Lol nothing there is criminal an agreement is an agreement. If one party takes longer than the agreed upon time or if one party completely fails to hold up there end all you have is a broken agreement. Nothing criminal, also it is against the law in most states, but I know for sure in Ohio and Kentucky (where Matt lives) to threaten an individual with criminal charges when you have no grounds for criminal charges. So in short the only one in this transaction between you and Matt that committed any criminal act is you. So you might want to slow down there batman with putting every detail of your plans in black and white on a public forum. I wish you the best man and I hope you get your stuff back soon. If you end up deciding to go the civil suit route good luck I've been through 3 of them where I was the plaintiff and won judgements in my favor. For close to $10k total have never seen a dime of it and wasted over $1500 chasing job info to attempt to garnish wages. Finally just said eff it and move on unfortunately civil law in this country has so very many holes in it it's pathetic.
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I did nothing besides tell him what proof i have he was in New York and indeed take my motors. I have proof of every agreement he ever agreed to.
I tried being nice, i gave him more and more time. Then he turns around and shows his true colors. I have personal messages he sent people threatening them. I told him i either get my stuff back or i will see him in court. There is nothing illegal about it.
The guy is a real scum bag. Hes trying to send me motors/parts that aren't mine. Then claims i never sent a payment when i have proof.
Its pathetic some of you will still back this guy up. I hope those of you who still think Matt is doing nothing wrong eventually screws you over this big as well. Because more and more people are coming out of the wood works claiming he has stuff of theres and he wont return it.
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Ha the fact you think I'm supporting Matt is funny. I was the first person to get loud about this **** and stir the pot and get everyone else to realize their parts had been gone for months. You threatened in this thread to file theft and Internet fraud charges against Matt are you that dense? That's illegal in most states. Like I said I hope you get your stuff back I'm happy I was able to help somewhat by getting Matt to send you some pictures of what I don't know but at least it was something.
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I'm not backing him up. I agree he hasn't done the right thing and stuck by his word in many cases. My post was to intended to bring to light the legal route is far from easy, matter of fact it's a real pain in the ass and you may be left with nothing in the end. The court system is designed to protect the defendant not the plaintiff any judge or lawyer will tell you that. It's unfortunate but situations like this happen multiple times a day to many people and most often the innocent are left holding the bag. If it were me I would go pick up my stuff in person.....much cheaper and less hassle.
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Except it is theft, he even took my money and didn't order said parts.
Once i am done talking with the police and filing out paper work, i will inform you all what we filed out.
Also i didn't say you were defending him, i have gotten messages from users and also people on facebook defending him. When its clear to see hes a liar and a horrible business man who makes lies up. He claims i never sent a payment, when i have proof. He also claims he never took my motors from New York state, when i have proof he was in my drive way. They guy needs to be behind bars, hes nothing but a thief.
This is what he sent me. Again, i sent 2 complete bottom ends. They weren't all rusty and messed up. Even the the motor i send him in pieces the parts were wrapped in wax paper with wd40
(http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu138/Lelouch_Rebellion/Notmine1_zps14cda818.jpg) (http://s641.photobucket.com/user/Lelouch_Rebellion/media/Notmine1_zps14cda818.jpg.html)
Now this next picture is mine. The motor wasn't torn all apart in pieces the cylinder wasn't missing studs.
(http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu138/Lelouch_Rebellion/notmine2_zps7417e586.jpg) (http://s641.photobucket.com/user/Lelouch_Rebellion/media/notmine2_zps7417e586.jpg.html)
He also never sent me pictures of the brand new parts i paid for. I'm sorry but hes trying to send me junk that isn't mine. I wonder who it really belongs to.
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His bad business practices not only hurt the guys who have parts and money tied up with him but also any small builders who may come along in the future who will do right by their customer.
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Did you think to write down the serial numbers?
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Yeah, i even took pictures of the serial numbers as well.
When i say i have EVERYTHING i mean it. I took down serials . Pictures. Even bore sizes.
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I hope all of you guys get your stuff back in the condition in which it was sent. I have been in this type of business for over 35 years. I know what it cost to run a legitimate full time business and charge enough money for my services so that I will still be in business the next time a customer wants to use by services.
A couple of years ago when I heard what MHR was charging for his services, I was confident MHR would not last long. I was pretty sure that MHR was not buying business insurance, paying rent or buying a place to conduct business, paying sales taxes, income taxes, federal and state withholding taxes, buying business license, or having shipping accounts. It is very difficult to make money when you have to close the business to make a trip to town to go to the post office, UPS or FedEx shipping terminals because you do not have a shipping account. The list of overhead cost seems to be endless when you are running a legitimate business.
Businesses like MHR and mine requires the shop to be well equipped or you spend too much time traveling to other business to get you machine work or dyno testing done to evaluate you products. Matt conversed with me before he bought his dyno. I tried to discourage Matt from buying the old dyno. He did not have enough experience to understand the short comings of the piece of equipment he was about to buy. The last time I conversed with him he still had not figured out how to make it work properly on the type of engines he was building where he could get repeatable results.
I have seen the same problems some of you are facing with MHR occur countless times with new businesses. Statistics show that over 90 % of the new business fail in less than 3 years because they do not have enough money to get started, they do not know how to price there products and services and do not have the management and social skills to deal with people.
Many people start their own business because they are confident that they have unique skills or products to offer the public and want to be their own boss. Business owners that believe they will be their own boss will fail. EVERY customer that you do business with is you boss!!
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Well just opened my package with my cylinder head in it... After 4 months it hasn't been touched and has a gouge of aluminum missing out of the top. MHR is effing awesome highly recommended if you wanna send your parts somewhere and get them back in the same or worse shape then you sent them and have him keep them for months!!!
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What about the other head he sent you, whats going on there.
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Looking at them both now sending it back to him when I get a chance but I got a busy couple weeks so I might just have to take my sweet ass time the same way he does to ship stuff. It belongs to someone named John so sorry John you got MHR to blame for your head being delayed.
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That sucks, did you ever pay MHR for services/labor?
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End of may paid $451 plus the $160 i paid in april for my piston thrust washers and rm wrist pin bearing. I'm disputing the transaction as we speak!
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I would drive down their and get my stuff and if would talk to me like he has talk to a couple of you guys threw messages to my face
He would get a good old fashion can of whip ass opened .
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Im not judging any of you guys ability but from the pic I saw Matt seems to be a pretty big dude and possibly stand his ground quite well. <1>
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I met Matt in person, hes no taller than i am. Then again i am 6'3.
None the less, i don't need to fight someone to prove my point. I think i already proved my point. There are people everywhere when they google MHR or matt hatfield racing they will find these forums and posts. Hell if you google it right now, one of the first results are from everything2stroke.com. Thats my thread. Hopefully we can make it so no one will ever get ripped off again..
I will be trying my luck with small claims court. If i can't get my stuff back. Then its a loss. But i want to make sure no one else ever gets screwed by this guy. EVER.
As for my 200$ paypal told me its been more than 45 days. But to dispute the transaction with my bank. They will contact paypal and settle the dispute with them. Then if i get my 200 back, they go after who ever the account holder was on MHR's paypal. Regardless if he cancelled his account or not. They said they keep Social Security's and addresses, bank accounts, credit card information so they can't open new accounts under different e-mails.
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I am just saying, if someone has already screwed you out of money. Why make things worse on your self by whipping him? Hes the kind of person that would sue you so he could get some coin in his pockets.
I think taking the legal route. disputing payments and such is the right way to go about it. Violence is never the answer.
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Oh it's just the usual Internet 'Im a big tough, 7-foot tall, bullet proof bastard' keyboard fighter talk that always happens with something like this.
I'd rather look him in the eye and shake his hand, honestly.
Sad when a 'kid' can be more mature about a situation like this. And even worse when the 'kid' has more money tied up than majority of the people freaking out.
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I never understood this route of talking. Sure you could whip someones butt for doing wrong to you. Stealing your money,parts whatever it may be. Its not worth being arrested over. Assault charges are no little thing.
Violence breeds more violence. If i end up losing my parts. Lesson learned. Don't trust shady people who work out of their single wide trailer. That don't even run a real business. But i will be getting my 200$ back either way, and some of my parts even if i must do small claims or whatever the detective suggests.
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So chuckie if and when you get all your parts back and not even half the stuff you paid for to be done is done and what was done isn't done right your first reaction is gonna be to have the desire to shake someone's hand? Oh not to mention the months of time he's wasted dragging his feet to return stuff he didn't even touch. Sorry man I don't have estrogen flowing through my veins I have testosterone and when someone screws over people the way Matt does it insights anger and hostility not "good job thank you sir" sort of reactions.
I'm not gonna go out of my way to do anything but trust and believe if I ever saw Matt at a race or event I wouldn't hesitate for a second to break his nose for him. One good punch that's all I'd do its a misdemeanor offense in Ohio or Kentucky and I have a really good attorney that could get it dropped most likely and even if he couldn't it would be totally worth the minimal amount of money and time I'd have to spend dealing with court. I mean shoot my brother beat the **** outta two cops and then two corrections officers in a couple hours time (ko'd and concussed one cop collapsed the other ones knee and fractured one corrections officers jaw and choked the other one unconscious) and my attorney got all that dropped to one count of felony resisting arrest he served 4 days in jail and paid a $1000 fine.
Not to mention through all of my conversations with Matt and all of his screw ups regarding my parts not once has he had the sack to apologize or offer to return any or all of my money. So go ahead and shake hands with that POS chuckie just make sure you wipe the chunks of corn from between your fingers and brown residue off when you're done before you touch anything and let him get his crappy persona and residue on anything else.
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Nice guys get run over in this world sad but true but reality. All I was saying I didnt like how he was talking to you guys and if my parts and money was their I would have made the trip already. The second thing i wrote was a joke guys about the bigger they are the harder they fall. I didnt mean to get you going Justin Bieber I mean Chuckie.
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Putting into type on a public forum that you're going to kick someone's a$$ is assault. Premeditated at that. Talking about how much of a criminal that Matt is, and following it up with assault, and malice is a bit hypocritical, don't you think?
As was stated before by the Mod, try keeping on topic with updates. Making threats against the man isn't going to improve anyone's situation or get anyone's parts back any faster.
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Whatever I posted on here please believe Jay it was said to Matt. Especially after he admitted he did nothing to my parts but a touch up trinity style show port job and bore my cylinder two sizes too big wasting two bores on my cylinder. I also never stated Matt was a criminal I actually argued to the contrary. I have all my parts back now though even though nothing was done to them so now it will be between Matt and my bank on the disputed charge for services he never performed. Oh and after today he blocked me on Facebook like the little lying pansy he is.
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I have no dog in this fight. Derrick, I know damn well the crap that youve dealt with pertaining to MHR.
All I'm saying is that threatening a$$ beatings on a forum that he's not active in is a **** move. If you're going to take legal action or beat his @$$, go do it, then come on and let us all know how well it worked out for you.
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He may not be a member here. But he comes here as a guest to read everything trust me.
All im saying is, taking legal action again'st him is better than pointlessly beating his butt so he can press charges on you. So not only did you lose time/money/parts on things you already sent him. Now you want to waste time/money in court defending your actions? Hell if i had that much money to begin with i would of picked a more reputable builder.
I am in no way defending MHR, you all know how i feel. The guy is scum. But i am not lowering my self to his standard to even lift a finger on him. I have other hobbies, where having an arrest on my record would make things very complicated.
But i do agree. I am confused as to why you would want to shake someones hand who just screwed you out of thousands of dollars? Because i lost 3 motors and 200$. I wouldn't shake his hand if my life depended on it.
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Jay I didn't make a threat, I simply said if I ran into him it wouldn't be pleasant and I'd splatter his nose on his face for him. I've been in a lot of fights I know the repercussions of my actions. And like I said its not a threat it's based on chance.
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This thread has turned to crap. Time to kill it 2c
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This thread has turned to crap. Time to kill it 2c
+1
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The thread is about crap what was it supposed to turn into?
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Who cares about what it was supposed to turn into, what it actually turned into was 8 pages of repetitive crap. Just saying
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Sarcasm never comes through over text or the Internet. Let me break it down the thread is about MHR which is essentially CRAP so the thread was destined from its beginning to be about CRAP.
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A few points to bring to the table. Does anyone know if his business is structered as a corporation or is he just a dba? How his business is structured will make a difference in all of this. Let's assume Matt has a legit business as in paying business taxes as Matt Hatfield Racing and is also set up as a corporation. He is going thru a divorce and she will most likley give the judge a story about how she was a big part of the business and helped build it blah, blah, blah. Then she will either want part ownership or for Matt to buy her half of the business. It's possible he is running the business into the ground to either lessen the value of the business or he plans on making a train wreck of it then handing it over to her and laugh as he walks away. Going on the assumption above that he has a structered corporation you will be taking Matt Hatfield Racing to court, not Matt. As far as the law is concinered you made a deal with Matt who represents Matt Hatfield Racing. As crappy as it is all he has to do is file bankrupt and any judgements against him are put on hold, the companies assets, if any are sold and the judge decides who gets how much if anything for the selling of the business assets. It would be possible then to take Matt himself to civil court but depending on how his business was structured it would prob be a fruitless effort. This is all assuming his business is structured as a llc. Been thru something similar in the past as have a few friends. I lost close to 5k in the deal. I hope everybody in this deal comes out ok in the end.
Pretty sure you can't be a dba if you operate out of a shop and keep merchandise there.
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A few points to bring to the table. Does anyone know if his business is structered as a corporation or is he just a dba? How his business is structured will make a difference in all of this. Let's assume Matt has a legit business as in paying business taxes as Matt Hatfield Racing and is also set up as a corporation. He is going thru a divorce and she will most likley give the judge a story about how she was a big part of the business and helped build it blah, blah, blah. Then she will either want part ownership or for Matt to buy her half of the business. It's possible he is running the business into the ground to either lessen the value of the business or he plans on making a train wreck of it then handing it over to her and laugh as he walks away. Going on the assumption above that he has a structered corporation you will be taking Matt Hatfield Racing to court, not Matt. As far as the law is concinered you made a deal with Matt who represents Matt Hatfield Racing. As crappy as it is all he has to do is file bankrupt and any judgements against him are put on hold, the companies assets, if any are sold and the judge decides who gets how much if anything for the selling of the business assets. It would be possible then to take Matt himself to civil court but depending on how his business was structured it would prob be a fruitless effort. This is all assuming his business is structured as a llc. Been thru something similar in the past as have a few friends. I lost close to 5k in the deal. I hope everybody in this deal comes out ok in the end.
Pretty sure you can't be a dba if you operate out of a shop and keep merchandise there.
State and local laws differ from place to place but in South Carolina if your business operates outside the city limits of any town you can run whatever business you want, with or without merchandise as a dba.
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He's dba he's too stupid to be llc'd.
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He's dba he's too stupid to be llc'd.
Didn't figure he was......costs money to be a llc. Everything he owns is ripe for the taking with the right lawyer.
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I have all my parts back and an active dispute for the $451 I paid for services that weren't performed or else I'd be filing suit. Instead I'll be content with having my parts back 4 months of wasted time and getting my money back since Matt openly admitted that all he did was a "trinity" style touch up port and bored my cylinder 2 bore sizes bigger wasting two bores for no reason. Oh and did absolutely zero to my cylinder head. And now blocked me on Facebook haha if anyone talks to him tell him Derrick said to suck it and the other persons cylinder head his dumb ass sent me is on its way!
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I have all my parts back and an active dispute for the $451 I paid for services that weren't performed or else I'd be filing suit. Instead I'll be content with having my parts back 4 months of wasted time and getting my money back since Matt openly admitted that all he did was a "trinity" style touch up port and bored my cylinder 2 bore sizes bigger wasting two bores for no reason. Oh and did absolutely zero to my cylinder head. And now blocked me on Facebook haha if anyone talks to him tell him Derrick said to suck it and the other persons cylinder head his dumb ass sent me is on its way!
Sometime it's best to take what you got and move on. It sucks bad that he bored your cylinder that much......you can't find these cylinders on every street corner.
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I put a dispute in today with my bank. They are contacting paypal and i should know within 10-15 business says if i win my dispute.
I also had a WONDERFUL conversation today at the police station. I have a few options available to me. Which in the coming days i will share some more information on.
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I hope you stick something criminal to that aZZhole! Like I said its gonna be tough but maybe the fact that he took goods from you on exchange for services and he altered those goods will make it theft. He's a nice guy I really just think he's not all there or he's slow mentally and extremely lazy.
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How can you guy say he is a nice guy--people who lie, cheat, steal, and are totaly dishonest are not nice. They are despicable A holes!
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I'm pretty sure he's slow like a couple cans short of a six pack that of he's a compulsive liar lazy and retarded. I was very friendly with him that's basically the only reason he talked to me and sent my stuff back at all I'm pretty sure. Then when I got my cylinder head back and confronted him about how he didn't even port my cylinder or touch my cylinder head and that he wasted two bores on my cylinder for no reason he got like kid on the playground defensive and acted like I was wrong for being upset that I paid him money to do things and after 4 months none of the things I paid him for were done.
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I am pretty sure hes not slow. He managed to have people believing his lies for how long? Even you told me.
Remember when your getting mad and angry,, you get what you pay for. Well did you get what you paid for?
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No I didn't and I'm getting my money back.
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Was told to post this here
http://gcnewsgazette.com/bookmark/23275676/article-Lawsuit%20filed%20against%20Sheriff-%20former%20Detective#.UfzqTNqqdZs.facebook
Also: My parts are shipping at the first of the week
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Ya he sent that to me too.
I don't give a rats ass about the sheriffs past he is still the county sheriff and if he helps people get their parts back that's good enough for me.
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Don't hold your breath chuckie I was told for two months my parts were shipping this week then next week and so on for 2+ months.
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We shall see.
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The only light I see at the end of tunnel is if I drive 8 hours one way to get my stuff. (pg)
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In case anyone missed it, or really think Matt is a decent guy capable of being a human being.
2:48am
James Brooks
Ok the other parts?
Also, the two cottom ends that weren't in pieces were not split and missing bearings and everything else...
2:51am
Matt Hatfield
i have some pics of what i split it don't look just like it was
i have stuff put up i need to get out
2:52am
James Brooks
Also the one case i gave you had polished clutch cover
i dont see it
That cylinder head is also missing studs..
2:52am
Matt Hatfield
i don't have a polished cover
2:52am
James Brooks
Mat, i got pictures of everything i sent you
even the reed cages
and everything
2:53am
Matt Hatfield
just give me shipping and i will send this junk back
they are there
2:53am
James Brooks
I wont be accepting basket cases in totes....I am not mechanically inclined to tell what is missing in the motor
Yet you don't have the polished clutch cover to the one motor..
2:54am
Matt Hatfield
it was a basket case when i got it all
2:54am
James Brooks
No you split the bottoms ends
I didn;t send you split bottom ends
only one was split
2:54am
Matt Hatfield
please just come and pick it all up
2:54am
James Brooks
RIGHT? You want me to drive from New York to pick my stuff up?
You didnt get me pictures of the brand new piston and rings and bearings and seals and gaskets i paid for?
2:55am
Matt Hatfield
james when i go through all this stuff i will, you have no clue what im dealing with right now
man i got to go to bed
2:56am
James Brooks
Dude, listen. I paid you back in March, you said it would take one month. That was before your whole divorce thing.
2:57am
Matt Hatfield
dude listen, i waited on you forever to send me money. it seems as if you like drama
2:57am
James Brooks
No i have messages, i asked you if the motors were in the way, you told me no. So you didnt mind holding on to them
Do not turn this around
2:58am
Matt Hatfield
ok i will charge storage
i will back date a bill and send it to you
2:58am
James Brooks
Yeah except i have proof you said you didn;t mind holding on to them
Matt do you want this to go to court?
You took the motors from my house in new york
You will be mandated to be in nys court law
I have already talked to the people i need to make this happen
2:59am
Matt Hatfield
i didn't take anything
2:59am
James Brooks
I have video Matt, want to see it?
8 camera
2 in the drive way
with audio
Want to do this?
2:59am
Matt Hatfield
like i say i am making a bill for storage
3:00am
James Brooks
Alright and i am going to the police with all these messages
You want to be shady business man?
3:00am
Matt Hatfield
ok send it to me
3:00am
James Brooks
Alright, we will do this your way.
3:01am
Matt Hatfield
im just not done with it, is that a crime?
3:02am
James Brooks
You are making up lies
I have proof you told me you didnt mind holding onto the motors
Now you want to charge me storage
3:02am
Matt Hatfield
you told me you paid me a few times i never seen the money
3:03am
James Brooks
Now you are saying i never sent 200?
Original Transaction Date Type Status Details Amount Mar 26, 2013 Payment To MHR Completed ... -$200.00 US
I kept every text. every e-mail. Every facebook conversation. You sure you want to do this Matt?
He has pulled similar stunts with other members. Even threatening them physically.
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Yet every time you talk to him you are assuming he will change his stripes, or suddenly do the right thing. The guy is a looser.thief. lier what ever you want to call him. TAKE THE LEGAL ACTION>>ALL OF YOU. make the drive and get your parts and video with audio you at his place picking up your parts. He may not have them, he may. But at least its on video and you will know. Best case you get parts back. If you have paid him for parts and service you will have to take legal action anyway.
Guys--the guy will file for bankrupsy. Im sure you are not the only one. Think about it--how long he has been playing this game all over the country. He is just going to sell any and all parts he has of yours or collect prepayments from everyone he can until it all catches up and he either goes to jail of files bankrupsy.
GO AND GET YOUR STUFF!!
He is such a shmuck--Sorry this is happening to all of you!
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Guys--the guy will file for bankrupsy. Im sure you are not the only one.
Exactly and if he does file they,re all f,d.Sounds like he be preparing for it for awhile,wouldn,t surprise me if he,s been stashing away cash money of the books.When he knows he,s truly sol you can bet he,ll sell whatever is there for any $$$ he can get.seen it happen too many times.Pocketing money coming in and not paying any bills owed when they know the end is near.I don,t know the man or even dealt with him,just my .02 on what I,ve seen first hand in other instances.
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Funny thing is Most of them asked me who to have engine work done by, I said HPR, Iceracer and mike 500fanatic. and Too stay away from MHR and Q. I told them this for a reason, but they decided cheap was better and you see the result.
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Sadly, I trusted Matt due to two prior transactions that went smooth as can be. Any builder can turn nightmare like Matt has. There are records throughout the history of the inter webs of good people turned thieves or scam artist.
At least if we leave this thread up, maybe even sticky it. People can learn from our experience and never send him work. Because there are people that are still sending him stuff who don't know about his business ethics.
I agree though, IceRacer was a dream to deal with. I had so many questions throughout the building process of my motor, and he always texted me back with answers/ explanations on what he was doing and how it benifited my motor.
Lesson learned. In the process of filling out police reports and disputing the bank transfer.
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After 2 days of exchanging small talk, I was like 'Hey get me together a total for shippin my engine back (just one right now)' and he was like 'Ok $50 should cover it' Sunday I got the money sent, I was told it would ship at the first of the week.
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We shall see tomorrow or Saturday. FedEx down here is sometimes known to be a day late.
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I was told it would ship at the first of the week.
We shall see tomorrow or Saturday. FedEx down here is sometimes known to be a day late.
Probably a big box of dog $hit Chuckie -->
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I was told it would ship at the first of the week.
We shall see tomorrow or Saturday. FedEx down here is sometimes known to be a day late.
Probably a big box of dog $hit Chuckie -->
LMAO!!!
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LMAO -- Hopefully not
Matt's never treated me bad, just took too long for my taste.
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Tracking number 795807700612
Weight 69.7 lbs
Packaging Package
Service FedEx Home Delivery
Total pieces 1
If i remember correctly the engine by itself was only around 35-50,,, so that weight is just about spot on with my extra parts added in
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70lbs is a lot of saved up dog turds...
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Got it today. Only the head and a small small clutch part missing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jo-p0Wlv1cE
The head was pretty shot anyway. I have a few nice ones I'll port up.
But I got all the high dollar rare stuff back so I'm happy and shall relax.
One motor down, one motor to go.
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this video is unavailable...
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Wtffffffff.
YouTube has been stupid happy on my phone lately. I think Tex messed with it while I was asleep or something.
Anyway,, I found the clutch part!!
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Good deal Chuckie. Yee Haw!!!!
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Glad you got stuff back. The guy won't even offer to ship me the brand new parts i paid for. He can't even prove he has the parts. He has a rude awakening coming.
After talking with paypal and submitting my claim. Turns out his account was terminated because people were disputing him. Guy still claims i never sent him money even though i have paypal records showing i did.
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After going back through my records it turns out that I needed to replace the missing head anyway because it had a tappet cover busted off in it. So I did get all my parts!! And a VERY NICE surprise with the piston/ring set I had bought!!!
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that piston looks bad better send it my way --> -->
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This guy is scum. Hes in such a bad place he can't work or do anything because he has no money.
YETTT these are new postings of his new number. I know it's him because he showed me the truck in the one listing.
http://louisville.craigslist.org/pts/3973730100.html
http://bgky.craigslist.org/mcy/3973743834.html
This guy man. Can't send my stuff back even though i offered to pay. He can't give me the parts i paid for said i never paid for them. If any of you defend this person, i really hope you end up with testicle cancer.
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Hey Buckeye,, you ever get that other head to him and get that other customers head back?
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I called his local Sheriffs today. Tried seeing if i could get help there before filling out the final paper work in my state. Talked to the deputy. Not the Sheriff.
Maybe they can give Matt a kick in the ass and he can finish the one motor before i really do press charges and take him to court. Which he WOULD be mandated to come to New York after talking to the detective here in New York.
If anyone here is on talking terms with Matt. You can feel free to show him that post. If he wants to save time and money. He can just contact me and get me progress on the one motor, Or he can send me the piston/rings/seals/bearings/gaskets i paid for along with my 3 motors. I will pay shipping. But i will not accept parts that aren't mine or the parts he claimed was mine that are all torn down and RUSTED solid.
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I sent him the incorrect head out the Monday after I got mine on Thursday. Haven't heard from that POS since, my dispute is still open with my bank but should be closed soon. Ill be posting an add on Craigslist in clarkson and Louisville warning people about him.
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Ill post my link to my add here
http://bgky.craigslist.org/mcy/3995687251.html
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Well Matt is monitoring this forum he just unblocked me on facebook and tried to accuse me of damaging the head I sent him 2 weeks ago. He also tried to claim that those Craigslist ads aren't his. He's such a lying pos!!
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Yo matt get ahold of me we need to talk!
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So he has time to monitor this thread. But not contact people that he owes parts to? I'm still trying to be nice about this. The detective i talked to said i have more than enough evidence to take serious actions. I told him i wanted to contact his local police department to see if he would do good on the one motor before putting such records on his file. He advised me that sometimes its better just to take action. But i said still said i would like to contact the clarkson pd, because in all honesty. I was in a bad place once too. People gave me some space and let me make things right. I hope he will make things right before i have to have the court system make things right.
His call though. Either way i will be getting compensation............
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Well, if Matt IS reading...
Matt, I'm very disappointed.
Unit 00 and 01 are disappointed too.
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Proof he's monitoring this thread.
FYI Matt I'm an honest person and have proof of everything I say or do.
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Does anyone have Tiffany's facebook? I would like to see if she knew about all the scamming going on. Maybe i can have her talk to the Sheriff ,
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Does anyone have Tiffany's facebook? I would like to see if she knew about all the scamming going on. Maybe i can have her talk to the Sheriff ,
Give me a ring
Brian
(928) 580-4771
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"And how do you know that's me on craigslist"
"It's your number you retard"
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This MHR guy is turning into a real gem.Every word he speaks he digs a deeper hole.
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Well i took down today. Surveillance footage from my CCD cameras i have with audio on my property. Down to his license plate on his truck was captured. As well as pictures of my stuff, serial numbers and paypal statements. Down to every last thing he promised to do for my motor was in conversations .
Now i will wait till Thursday to see if his local police department talks to him and see if he contacts me. If not, time to *poop* or get off the pot. If he doesn't decide to make this right without court. He won't be happen after the court system is involved.
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Ok guys. We really appreciate you all keeping it somewhat clean & semi-professional on this thread. I am glad to see that at least 1 or 2 of you have gotten some of your parts back. In an effort to try to speed up the recovery process, the decision has been made to lock this thread. I will include my name & phone number at the bottom of this post. The plan is to use me as the liaison between MHR & the forum members that have parts at his shop. Please do not hesitate to call me with any questions or concerns you may have with this situation.
As riders, we all want to promote this sport in a positive way. As Quadracer enthusiasts, it is in our best interest to ensure that this forum does not detract from that.
MHR is still a member here on the forum & although the quality of his work has never been questioned, for personal reasons, has not been able to complete or ship out any work as of late. We get that. But the constant negativity certainly will not improve anything. This is why I am encouraging those that have engines with him to contact me instead. I will then relay the info to him. Hopefully this will streamline the whole recovery process so that he only has 1 person to answer to rather than being bombarded by constant phone calls & emails. Those who have taken other measures, this is not an attempt to detract you from your process. But please call me anyways to advise me of your progress. Together we can get this sorted out.
Thank you all for your help in this matter.
Brian Wolgamot
(928) 580-4771