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LT500R Quadracer => LT500R- Exhaust => Topic started by: Buckeye513 on January 18, 2013, 06:27:15 pm
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I didn't know there was a spring ride but I doubt my bike will be together by the spring.
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I m hoping they do the spring ride their, i was wanting to go to it.
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Good riding about 130 miles worth of trails. My dad and I are gonna do hatfield and mccoys this fall.
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No i havent!
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Ok will do! You ever go riding in Wayne national Forrest?
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Let me know if any of the drag races are close to Wv border, I would like to come to a couple to watch or run this summer.
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There's a few local dirt stips, there's also motor cycle field meets all summer long that have drag races. I live in the Cincinnati area so any drag strip around Ohio Kentucky or Indiana ill go to. I probably won't be the fastest this build I'm doing now is the first I plan on upgrading more over the years to come. All I can swing right now is a $2000-$3000 build top to bottom, all said with the purchase of the Zilla I should be right at $3000-$3500 when I'm done with this build total.
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Good choices , nice looking pipe, where are you going to drag your bike at.
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You will love that pipe. Looks like its in great condition!
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I have seen that one before.
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Bought a used Q V1 pipe! Can't wait to finish the build and hear it rip!!
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plated
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PLATED OR RAW??
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Were do you get one of these DCS-4 pipes and how much are they?
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I'm looking to buy a pipe today. I was thinking DCS-4. i ride a mix of trail / mx / hill climb I live in New Jersey and ride mostly in Pennsylvania so i ride in mostly all dirt very little sand. Any suggestions ?
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Made a decision on what pipe I want! I want a Q v1 or 1.1 pipe. I want the over rev for the drag strip and the bling factor plus i don't really believe set up properly there's much difference between the big two pipes and one has the high rpm rev and one has a higher price tag and comes raw. I don't want a $1000 raw pipe only problem is the v1 Q pipe isn't being made anymore I've contacted both Q and Mat Shearer both nice guys Mat referred me back to Q which I totally respected.
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Trust me I wish I was in so cal as well but the mrs doesn't want to move far from our son's grand parents.
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Doing the 88 on a dyno in a few weeks (dynojet atv and mustange dyno), just got the top end repaired, wish you were closer to So Cal I would be happy to let some members try out this pipe in Glamis.
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Mitch weren't you re dynoing your pipe because your first dyno results you had a **** piston? Did up ever do that and if so what were the results. I like plated look of your pipe and for the money you may sway me off a HPR or a Q pipe.
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Shipping is not as bad as you think.
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I haven't ordered anything yet my bike is at a mechanic family members this week and next to get a new clutch chain and sprockets put on and cleaned up an gone through. Like I said in not in a rush my dad is my financial backer on this project because he's living expenses free and has money to blow. So he wants this Zilla to be unbeatable at the drag strips. I'm gonna contact Jerry after my bike gets done at being gone through by my cousin and talk with Jerry about motor work modifications and a pipe and costs of everything. The biggest scare for me is the cost to ship my motor and carb from Cincinnati to Arizona! Haha
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Got the go ahead for a new exhaust today. Money isn't really an issue with this purchase so I'm torn between a HPR#19 or a Q V2.0. I like the q look but I like all the dyno numbers Jerry Hall has for his pipe but wish it came in a matte finish or the glossy finish the q pipe has. If it were you which would you choose? Also any suggestions on what else I should do? I want my Zilla to be a total beast but still be reliable.
Did you order a HPR yet?
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So Buckeye, decide on a pipe yet, lol.
If you go with either pipe i'm fairly sure you will be satisfied. P*
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Those are Chrome plated HPR #19 pipes. Threw the #20 in there for fun... They are my 2 main dune bikes , running gas, very good gas.. a tank of methanol doesn't get you very far in the dunes.
JH has a Alky Pipe version of the 19 in the testing phase..
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i was referring to dales pipe
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All I can say wow with reading this and Mitch are you going to have more DCS pipes done?
I would like to see all 4 done but still it comes down to 4 pipes, the dyno numbers and cost of all 4. Not one pipe is the best for everyone do to there riding or there modded motor. Just my suzukiquadracerhqhere but I say 5hp is not worth 350 to 400 more dollars for a pipe. But it looks like its just coming down to who makes more power suzukiquadracerhq
The 2 pipes that I am selling now are to the masses prices with the 2 pipes that I have sold, your only as good as your customer's feedback and thats what I am waiting for, unlike the V-1 I rather make sure if glitches show up the jig get fixed ASAP.
DCS-4 pipe was designed and costed for the Play Duner / Trail Riders out there.
HPR and Rk and Shearers are the hill shooter pipe guys as far as I am concerned.
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Is that the pipe you were telling me about? What does it do on the alky?
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All I can say wow with reading this and Mitch are you going to have more DCS pipes done?
I would like to see all 4 done but still it comes down to 4 pipes, the dyno numbers and cost of all 4. Not one pipe is the best for everyone do to there riding or there modded motor. Just my 2c here but I say 5hp is not worth 350 to 400 more dollars for a pipe. But it looks like its just coming down to who makes more power +k2
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19 + chrome....could change how it runs?..= 20. That's my #, not Halls.
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There's a #20 now?!?
Nice rides man :o
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Top of the line...proven. HPR #20
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I just dropped the price down $50 bucks due to Q raising his $100 bucks (Only 1 Plated pipe left!)
http://www.suzukiquadracerhq.com/index.php?action=classifieds;sa=view;id=2
That's a businessman!
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I just dropped the price down $50 bucks due to Q raising his $100 bucks (Only 1 Plated pipe left!)
http://www.suzukiquadracerhq.com/index.php?action=classifieds;sa=view;id=2
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$920, Q's on crack. That DCS is looking better every day now
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Well I wasn't expecting this thread to turn into another pipe dyno argument thread. I know what number are out there and I know the v2 Q pipe doesn't have any dyno numbers to back up its price tag. Also I'm ready to purchase a pipe but that doesn't mean I need to rush it cause IMO its the most important upgrade to my Zilla ill make and I've always been told good things come to those that wait. I really like the HPR pipe for wht Jerry provides as reasoning for the price tag I just wish it came plated or painted I'm not a huge fan of the raw look. And when I said price isn't an issue I didn't mean I wanted to spend $1000+ on the pipe plus another $200-$400 to get it look how I want. I have already called Jerry and spoke with him for 45 mins about a range of questions I had. I have also emailed Q and he informed me all of his v2 pipes were purchased already and that the next run would be $100 more per pipe making them roughly $50 less than Halls pipe.
$920 bucks now, WOW!
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Wow.
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Well I wasn't expecting this thread to turn into another pipe dyno argument thread. I know what number are out there and I know the v2 Q pipe doesn't have any dyno numbers to back up its price tag. Also I'm ready to purchase a pipe but that doesn't mean I need to rush it cause IMO its the most important upgrade to my Zilla ill make and I've always been told good things come to those that wait. I really like the HPR pipe for wht Jerry provides as reasoning for the price tag I just wish it came plated or painted I'm not a huge fan of the raw look. And when I said price isn't an issue I didn't mean I wanted to spend $1000+ on the pipe plus another $200-$400 to get it look how I want. I have already called Jerry and spoke with him for 45 mins about a range of questions I had. I have also emailed Q and he informed me all of his v2 pipes were purchased already and that the next run would be $100 more per pipe making them roughly $50 less than Halls pipe.
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P* P* P* P* :))
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Mitch, I believe you that the 44hp was probably a fluke caused by some sort of damage, but you took another bike(big reed) to another dyno to get some better numbers. The whole point of a dyno is to use the same measuring stick (again correct me) to compare baselines against performance improvements. Without using the same consistent testing tool the results are totally skewed. Also we all know the DCS-4 came from a variant of the 1.1 & got copied, no way that thing was a "Clean sheet" design.
If the DCS-4 was a copy of the V-1.1 then it would run VERY close to the V-2 power band design, so I would be selling his now $900 pipe for $500, this would also explains why RK would not want anyone to post any dyno runs of the V-2 pipe for comparison.
I really dont understand why Kennerz would bring this up when RK (DrQ) is out of pipes at this time and looking for deposits at this time.
2c
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Got the go ahead for a new exhaust today. Money isn't really an issue with this purchase so I'm torn between a HPR#19 or a Q V2.0. I like the q look but I like all the dyno numbers Jerry Hall has for his pipe but wish it came in a matte finish or the glossy finish the q pipe has. If it were you which would you choose? Also any suggestions on what else I should do? I want my Zilla to be a total beast but still be reliable.
Buy the HPR #19 pipe & get it chrome plated nice & shiney. You will have the best of both worlds (Y)
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Mitch I don't see you wanting a revised sheet of the DCS pipe against the others on the same day, same bike, same dyno.
if Mitch doesn't I'd like to see it, I'm running a DCS-4 an I'd like to see how it compares
Thats B.S. Ken I know Q has been telling everyone about that dyno run at Shearers, Its in his best interest to do so.
That 88 LT500 dyno run ended up having a **** piston that I found after I tore it down afterwards, the dyno had the same power curve as the other dynos of the DCS-4 pipes, At that time my 88 only made 44 hp and 36 ft lbs torque with a **** piston which is about what a FMF would put out, And to be honest I'm pretty damn impressed that it made those numbers with 2 fractures across the top of the piston.
No Smoke no Mirrors just the truth
With That:
My 88 engine is redone and going through dyno jetting / graphing power bands this month to document the 88 graph vs the 87 graph.
And thanks again Jayson for the quick delivery on the piston.
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Kenny, Kenny...It's obvious to all that you only know what Q tells you you know,. about LT500's...(hope I didn't loose you there..) Your a good friend to him,..and as you have just pointed out, he does need someone. Stay calm...check the Dyno section morning and night, ..soon.. you will know exactly what the seat of your pants is feeling.
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Mitch I don't see you wanting a revised sheet of the DCS pipe against the others on the same day, same bike, same dyno.
if Mitch doesn't I'd like to see it, I'm running a DCS 4 an I'd like to see how it compares
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Fuggin A..... :o :o P* P* P*
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Dale - They don't call you the fisherman for nothing, always trying to set the bait.. Again someone said it best before; where is a fair test?? who is unbiased? no copies?? Car vs. Atv dyno? Dale I thought you had a 2.0 already, so you would already know the outcome, right??
Well kenny...rest assured,.. and pass this on to your master... I have assumed a Leadership Role in seeing that a fair and true testing will be conducted of the pipe. He should have done it before offering it for sale, especially after the ***kicking he got last time. Also,... I do feel bad for You, that after all the discussions about dyno testing you still seem to not understand how it works. When the results are posted I suggest you abstain from reading them and just go ride your bike and "Marvel" at how it continues to run at all speeds.
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Dale - They don't call you the fisherman for nothing, always trying to set the bait.. Again someone said it best before; where is a fair test?
Again we can have only the Graphs done and leave off the HP# if RK is concerned, just let me know what "WEEK DAY" date is good for you so I can set this up.
fFUGG THAT... IF YOU ARE TESTING PIPES WE/I WANT TO KNOW THE FINAL RESULTS... if its at a non builder for this site what does he have to gain from it??? its just a test to see what pipe out performs the other. or how some guys like to say it, What ever pipe suits my riding style, blah blah blah... why do you care how Robert feels Mitch, do you really think he cares about how you feel, i dont think so..................................
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Duncan is advertising 3 runs $75
DASA is here in Riverside, but heck I am willing to go to Duncan also, think Kennerz lives in San Diego also.
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Duncan is advertising 3 runs $75
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Dale - They don't call you the fisherman for nothing, always trying to set the bait.. Again someone said it best before; where is a fair test?? who is unbiased? no copies?? Car vs. Atv dyno? Dale I thought you had a 2.0 already, so you would already know the outcome, right??
No Smoke or Mirrors Kennerz, Can use your quad or mine it dosent matter, place Dasa's "Mustang Dyno" (due to cost and being unbiased testing) Again we can have only the Graphs done and leave off the HP# if RK is concerned, just let me know what "WEEK DAY" date is good for you so I can set this up.
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There goes Kennerz again....so sure of what he has..and almost next door to Mitch's offer of cost covered testing !!.... but not sure enough to do go do a little friendly testing? Hard to figure that one out?
Yeah what's up with that? Free lunch and gas to clear up the speculation....
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Lets RACE...lol.
I hear Dale's fast.... S~
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AND.. FYI I used a Good quality plater very close to JH (a customer himself).
Nickel plate- $150.00.
Triple Chrome (I went with) $400.00. That was for every piece including silencer housing. Not the flange.
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There goes Kennerz again....so sure of what he has..and almost next door to Mitch's offer of cost covered testing !!.... but not sure enough to do go do a little friendly testing? Hard to figure that one out?...lol
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if mitch is buying lunch, better make sure it is not a place with a drive through. :)
Damn caught again...........
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if mitch is buying lunch, better make sure it is not a place with a drive through. :)
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I need to buy a Q V2 pipe.
Anyone have one for sale?
I'd like some Carne asada tacos
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Not at all Dez, Someone is asking $800 for a custom pipe and the dialog you hear about it is from the seat of the pants description on the power band, any pipe upgrade from a Bills, FMF, or CT to either Aaen, Q, HPR, DCS will feel like you strapped on a rocket vs those pipes, it's that each pipe has a its own power band and to understand it you need to see the Graphs, Myself had posted the V-1 and the V-1.1 Graphs and many have posted the HPR 19 Graphs, and not to get into the HP# Dyno BS, but each pipe has its own power curve from starting RMP to ending RPM, different ported cylinders will reflect different HP/Torque numbers but you would get the idea on the power band graphs.
I am not saying the V-2 is not a good pipe at any means, but a side by side comparison would nice.
As I said before I will pay for a dyno run for anyones V-2 dyno here in Riverside, Either your quad or mine I dont care, heck i'll even throw in lunch and some gas money, just PM me and let me know what dates are available to do this.
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Oh man.. Oh man you did it now! S~ [|]
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Ill say it again and again it would be nice to see a Graph on the V-2 power band to compare to the V-1 power band.
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Now I'm confused the q v1 I was more of a top end pipe and you saying the q v2 has a better low mid and top?
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Oh yes my bad you are right hpr is supposed to have a little bit more all around power than the qv.2 the qv.2 traded a little bit off the top to make a little bit more grunt in the low to mid I. So ive heard and compared I do not own one. hpr vs q they had close to the same displacement throughout the power band just the hpr was putting out a little more hp I may be wrong it has been a while since I seen the shoot out.
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Hpr al day I'd leave it raw with high temp clear coat I think that looks mean plus I believe the hpr has more low and mid than the dr.q I think top end is the same can't remember if I had the cash hpr.
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I like that shiny DCS! (Y)
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MMMmmmm there is another one out there also...........and is less expensive and has stock and even has dyno graphs.............just say'n [|] S~
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z183/erbe03/100_0988.jpg)
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z183/erbe03/100_0989.jpg)
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z183/erbe03/IMAG1120.jpg)
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Q's newest video says he is going to make another run of pipes.
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(http://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq76/elephantrider414/Quadzilla%20Build/IMAG0206.jpg)
(http://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq76/elephantrider414/Quadzilla%20Build/IMAG0205.jpg)
Jerry Hall did work on my motor and it runs real hard. I am positive the HPR #19 is a badass pipe. I couldn't get past not having a big shiny Q pipe however. I love it compared to the original V1 that I had.
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I am not sure Q has any more 2.0 pipes at the moment. Im sure he will make more as he sold what he made. I feel the Q and halls are the best pipes out there. If money not an issue and you want something now get a halls and have it finished how you want. I got one of the last 2.0 pipes from his first batch. I chose it on cost vs performance perception. It was 200 less than halls and saved me another 200 in the bling factor i wanted.
I went off the assumption that Q being a zilla nut would not develop a new pipe if it were not improved. Everyone loved the Q 1.1 at they love the Halls. The 2.0 is suppose to have more power down lower--more like the halls vs a higher strung pipe. I realize no dyno numbers. I went off what others who are running them have said and the cost.
I have a shiny chrome CT pipe and new silencer I will sell you. I have tried a bills, and a Paul Turner pipe and I like the CT much better than both those. Im betting I will like the Q even more.
Too bad my restoration is a winter project so I cant test my Q pipe until spring. Its -4 degrees here so riding does not sound fun right now.
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P*
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Got the go ahead for a new exhaust today. Money isn't really an issue with this purchase so I'm torn between a HPR#19 or a Q V2.0. I like the q look but I like all the dyno numbers Jerry Hall has for his pipe but wish it came in a matte finish or the glossy finish the q pipe has. If it were you which would you choose? Also any suggestions on what else I should do? I want my Zilla to be a total beast but still be reliable.