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LT50 / LT80 / LTZ90 => LT50 / LT80 / LTZ90 - Engine => Topic started by: Mitch Keller on September 27, 2012, 03:10:13 pm
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Have a little faith Jack! :) I actually was running 13/26 with a stock sized rear tire, and the bike had no problem breaking loose on anything except pavement. On pavement, you couldn't keep the front end down!
Now, I've extended the rear about 1.25 inches and pushed the front end out a little with the new Teixeira Tech A-arms, so it shouldn't wheelie quite as bad, but it will probably spin a little easier. But the tires I'm going to use (for now at least) are some little bitty 18x6.5x8 Holeshots that I bought years ago when I first put it back together with your modified motor parts. These are the smallest and lightest 18's I've ever seen. I don't even think they're 18" to be honest if I took a ruler to them. With the 13 tooth sprocket I had, these tires would have no chance of hooking up if you fully pinned it. I actually put the taller stock tires back on with aluminum rims to gear it up some.
Also, we're not on an MX track most of the time. I agree, a 14 would be too much there probably. But it’s nice on a gravel road cruise to not have to wind it out too much.
I'll play with the gearing/tire combo a little. I just want to try a 14 once with these tires. I'll let you know how it turns out.
Also, we’re planning a trip in May to Little Sahara sand dunes in OK. I’ve got some Kenda Gecko paddles for it. They are a little taller and heavier than the little holeshots, but in the sand, I think it will still do ok due to the ability to spin. But sand does rob a lot of power, so I’ll have about 3 or 4 different size sprockets with me on hand. It’s easy enough to switch out, so we’ll play with it some the first day to determine what works best.
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I think a 14 is mighty tall but you may be able to get away with it. :)
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This was a simple low cost way of lowering gearing for my daughters dunner LT80, Found out the old LT80's used to be 428 pitch non O ring chain, and went to the 520 chain pitch which is way too big and heavy for the LT80, and the standard gearing for newer LT80 is 10/22 2.220 ratio, the H/J models are 12/26 with ratio 2.1666 not much lower but with less rolling resistance with the 428 chain, we noticed the quad did snap out of the corners faster, and was launching better.
Just an update on this old thread, while the older ('87 and '88) LT80's did have a 428 chain, but the 12/26 gearing is actually very slightly FASTER than the 10/22 gearing of the later models, not slower. When taking the number of teeth on a rear sprocket over the number of teeth of a front sprocket, the larger the ratio, the slower it's geared. Still, the gearing difference is so negligeable, it won't be noticed. However, using a 428 chain instead of a 520 chain is slightly noticable. If you really want a noticeable difference, get the older 428 sprockets, but use #40 farm chain. It's way cheaper and way less resistance. It's not as strong, but when you can buy 10 feet of it for $20 bucks or so, who cares. Just replace it more often.
You can also buy different sprockets for the 428 chain to gear it until your heart's content. When I'm done restoring my son's LT80 with a race engine, I'll be running a 14/26 combo with very small mx tires. I might even run a 15/26 combo if it will pull it out of the hole good. (I think it will with the small MX tires)
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This was a simple low cost way of lowering gearing for my daughters dunner LT80, Found out the old LT80's used to be 428 pitch non O ring chain, and went to the 520 chain pitch which is way too big and heavy for the LT80, and the standard gearing for newer LT80 is 10/22 2.220 ratio, the H/J models are 12/26 with ratio 2.1666 not much lower but with less rolling resistance with the 428 chain, we noticed the quad did snap out of the corners faster, and was launching better.
OEM P/N#
2751148400 12 tooth H/J Model
2760040b11-428-44 Chain H/J Model
6451140b00 26 tooth H/J Model
May want to hit yuzuha32 for a quote.