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LT500R Quadracer => LT500R- Exhaust => Topic started by: Ferra3904 on March 16, 2014, 07:22:21 pm
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I split the topic since it train wrecked.
guys talking about the east coast trail ride, go here http://www.suzukiquadracerhq.com/riding-spots/we-need-a-suzuki-quadracer-hq-trail-race/
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Owning a pipe and never running it is the same as not ever having the pipe in my book.
Oh well, we are on two different reading levels lmao
If I can get my bike zilla back you better believe it'll be ran. But only 2 more times before I rip the motor out for my 88 lol.
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Owning a pipe and never running it is the same as not ever having the pipe in my book.
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Really at this point who cares use what pipe you like and actually show up to ride.
A lot of people need this mentality
An even better mentality is that someone who's never owned any of the pipes discussed in the thread not chime in at all because you really have no input other then to stir the pot.
Sorry Bucky, I had an AAEN on my zilla :-) never did get to run it though so that's why I don't pitch in on the performance side of the argument.
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Speaking of pipes, One of the guys that actually comes out to glamis has a Bills pipe. Yes that pipe signs off way early, does it have gobs of torque and power at any rpm yes. It really does work well in the dunes.
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Really at this point who cares use what pipe you like and actually show up to ride.
A lot of people need this mentality
An even better mentality is that someone who's never owned any of the pipes discussed in the thread not chime in at all because you really have no input other then to stir the pot.
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Really at this point who cares use what pipe you like and actually show up to ride.
A lot of people need this mentality
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man those fmf pipes are bad. at least the price reflects what you're getting.
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This was dyno jetting with Q-1 and Aaen Pipes, yes on a Q HRD engine to add, also Ill throw in a FMF dyno run .
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z183/erbe03/lt500QPIPEDYNO57HP-page-001_zpsb22fe517.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/erbe03/media/lt500QPIPEDYNO57HP-page-001_zpsb22fe517.jpg.html)
This was a Tudors Duner Porting.
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z183/erbe03/DYNOQPIPEFMFPIPE-page-001_zpsa737cd86.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/erbe03/media/DYNOQPIPEFMFPIPE-page-001_zpsa737cd86.jpg.html)
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Really at this point who cares use what pipe you like and actually show up to ride. It was kinda funny me and the other guys were talking, the same people show up every year. I think next season we should start a pool as to how many will come. You can only win if you show up. I gotta give props to David who drove down from Sacramento, only to have on going mechanical issues.
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Yes i see that, i attribute it to being the shut off of the testing. The other graphs show the Aaen and Qv1 mirroring each other like i stated in my first post. I posted up these graphs as information to the OP.
Reading a dyno can be misleading, so much depends on the particular bike thats on the dyno. Most of the graphs i have seen show the Aaen and Qv1 very close in hp and max rpm.
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Gusto do you not see how on your first graph the AAEN dives at 8500 rpm and the Q v1 is still plateaued? Meaning had the dyno test gone to higher rpms the Qv1 would've kept revving where the AAEN was maxed out at 8500 rpms.
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Why are the HPR and Q line colors the same? Or EXTREMELY close to the same color? Hard to really tell on that sheet whats what
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P*
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(http://s25.postimg.org/e6iopwdlr/FRYComparison_0000.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)
free screenshot (http://postimage.org/app.php)
(http://s25.postimg.org/raj75gzbz/FRY88_Comparison_0000.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)
capture screen (http://postimage.org/app.php)
Here are two of the dyno runs done by motorgeek that were deleted off the old site. I saved these to my computer way back. Aaen and Q pipe are pretty much the same on most runs but i like how the Aaen pulls away on Dales big reed engine.
No question HPR19 is the pipe for the zilla though....but for the money Aaen all the way.
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Here's a pic of a v2 that was repaired. When the dyno days happened 1& 2 happened the results were shown... There was a show down at dumont, Zelda was gapped heavily by Dale and it's on vid.
The tears never stop.....
(http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j300/Dezsled/7e7bd367289437a993b926e0ecbc1d1a.jpg)
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Buckeye, i gotta disagree with you on the Aaen pipe, i think its built better than a Q pipe and it actually revs higher than the Qv1. I have the dyno files saved from Motorgeeks testing on the old site where the HPR19, Shearer Drag, Aaen and Qv1 were tested.
I have been following both forums for a while now and know all about Q and his puppets, his work thats really shopped out, and his "give away" bike. Think the guy is a tool BUT the deleted post had good information about three pipes that shouldnt have been deleted. Now that group of supporters is going to say the mod is building his own pipes and doesnt want any competition.
Anyway back to the OPs question, i would add the CT Outlaw pipe to the mix for trail riding. The design will turn heads also.
!st off I am not competing with HPR or RK, Ill make small batches when I upgrade while making a new pipe design to cut my cost , to be honest , I really not making much on the pipe sales since I am only looking at batches of 10 and the dyno testing cost, all out of pocket..
2nd I also paid out of pocket to buy and test the Aaan Pipe, my dyno reading were not as good as HPR runs, just followed the Q-1 pipe by 3 HP, but then again $400 pipe, that might fit, and has questionable quality for the internal welds. (mine was plainly see the welds were not hammered down smooth)
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I didn't say the Q pipe is built better I said it looks and fits better. I've not heard of many if any people that have gotten a new AAEN that have not had fitment problems that were pretty major. And I recall looking at dyno tests of the AAEN and the qv1 and the v1 had about 4-500 more rpm of power before falling off then the AAEN did.
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I only saw his first post in this thread, but it looked legit to me. I've met Kennerz and he seems like a good dude. This is the first thread in weeks that's actually had any life to it....I say let it go unless it turns into a completely ridiculous thread about nothing.
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Post were deleted due that I warned Kennerz many times!" if you come in here to stir up the masses you will be banned", If you will note the folks that run HPR products don't seem to get all wound up, they simply say "lets ride"
Kennerz has enough other forums to push RKs goodies.
I apologies for the deleted post, was a glitch in the banning.
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The deleted post is just the same thing Q did. Q would delete posts about products that were competition. Good thing that asshat is gone.
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I agree with Gusto, deleting posts in a way adds fuel to the fire. It did have nice information about the performance of the different pipes
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Buckeye, i gotta disagree with you on the Aaen pipe, i think its built better than a Q pipe and it actually revs higher than the Qv1. I have the dyno files saved from Motorgeeks testing on the old site where the HPR19, Shearer Drag, Aaen and Qv1 were tested.
I have been following both forums for a while now and know all about Q and his puppets, his work thats really shopped out, and his "give away" bike. Think the guy is a tool BUT the deleted post had good information about three pipes that shouldnt have been deleted. Now that group of supporters is going to say the mod is building his own pipes and doesnt want any competition.
Anyway back to the OPs question, i would add the CT Outlaw pipe to the mix for trail riding. The design will turn heads also.
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i would like to say the aaen pipe is built way better than the q pipe.
most q pipes have had cracks repaired, and if not yet it will happen.
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Iirc the Aaen dimensions were taken off another pipe. So it's no wonder that it would perform well. It is a good pipe for the price.
The dcs6 should bring some good results as developement has progressed steadily.
Mitch hurry up and get to bene's would ya!
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Gusto has more to do with all the chit slung by Q and Kennerz on other forums and Facebook about this site to try and regain credibility for Q and his broken ego and customer base. It's very rare that posts get deleted on this site unless it's me and one of my rants! Lol
I agree AAEN is a good bang for the buck but used Q v1's are always coming up for sale for about the same as you'd pay for an AAEN and they look and fit so much better and have more over rev.
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Aaen, best bamg for the buck and the new ones have good fit and finish.
Too bad the crap attitude from the old site has carried over to this site, the deleted post had good info.
I'm with you....I love my Aaen, it fit great...runs even better. I agree with you 100%, look at the dyno sheets.
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Aaen, best bamg for the buck and the new ones have good fit and finish.
Too bad the crap attitude from the old site has carried over to this site, the deleted post had good info.
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How much should I sell my pt for?
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A> A> A> +k2 +k2 (Y) S~
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Dang I figured he might have pulled it C:-)
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Kennerz can be Q puppet for Q products on facebook and other forum sites, I dont need the drama here. suzukiquadracerhqThe guys that ride with the HPR products just always say to everyone lets ride!
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Wait what happened to all of Kennerz posts in this thread?
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My Q v1 does good in tight trails and makes climbing long hills a breeze because the power just keeps coming without the need to shift. Supposedly the v2 has more low and mid range with not as much over rev as the v1. I would think that would make it a good all around performer. Nothing like hitting an open section of trails and leaving the other atv's sitting still and keeping pace with and out running some dirt bikes.
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No 5s left?
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Honestly... for real trails? The PT pipe or the FMF is perfect with a little port work. No need to spend money when you have whats best for your situation. I'm sure the pipes above preform in open areas.... just not well suited for trails.
MY .02
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Hurry up and get done rearranging your shop, dynoing will suck worse being sweaty and coated with 927/vp c12 exhaust in the summer heat.
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Sorry to say at this time no DCS-6 yet, just haven't been able to get the time to do Dyno runs, we been busy as hell for the last few months, hell I tried to send my kid to the dynos with my quad just to get it done, I have the builders also on my azz.
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Whats the deal with ur dcs-5? Are they available? Or is there a 6 yet?
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Dez, has a raw DCS-4 for sale, I have left it is a plated DCS-4 pipe and silencer and was custom mounted to my frame, I had a Aluminum six pack rack grab bar so it might fit a lil off on OEM quads.
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Isnt the V2 more mid?
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I went from a PT to a Q V1 and was quite a difference for sure.
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O ya I watched all his videos im subscrided to his page. Nice zilla!!!
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Here's one , high light his name and look in his posts there's more
Check 9:28
http://youtu.be/-tA0NzZI1z4
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Where his vids at? Youtude?
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I have the DCS 4 on my zilla and i am 100% satisfied with it. I think it's an awesome pipe for the trails.
^^ Watch his videos that quad rips around the trails!!
I included Mitch's DCS4 because it is a very good pipe. The videos show just how strong a performer it is. On the trails I'd bet you could get in and out of the trees quicker, those top end pipes perform best when you get to stretch it legs and and let er rip! I prefer the HPR19 for all out performance. I was there at both dyno testing days and the fishermans Zilla ripped all the others a new a hole.
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I picked my zilla up in Dec so idk if it has port work or not. It has v force 3 reeds, PT pipe with carb jetted for pipe. That's about all I know about it without ripping it apart and measuring.
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check for sale section, there are a few pipes for sale that you are looking for.
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I have the DCS 4 on my zilla and i am 100% satisfied with it. I think it's an awesome pipe for the trails.
^^ Watch his videos that quad rips around the trails!!
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I have the DCS 4 on my zilla and i am 100% satisfied with it. I think it's an awesome pipe for the trails.
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What other mods do u have on your zilla
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I had a q v1. On the flats or hard pack it flat rips. I only dune, so I got a hpr. I love it the power is great and as kennerz said shift recovery is better. For trails I would pick any of the top 3. You will be happy.
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I'm far from an expert but I have ridden with an fmf, hpr19 and dcs4
Bottom end / mid - fmf
Mid / top end - hpr19
In between - dcs4
This only opinion, others may feel differently. Ken500R has a DCS4 maybe he can give his impressions on how it performs.
Hopefully others will share their impressions of how these pipes perform...
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I keep the rpms up while riding will that help these high rev pipe perform well for trail riding? I just didn't wanna spend big $ to have it not perform how I want it.
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I have a PT now but want to upgrade. Ive looked at the dynos and it looks like the hpr pulls throughout pretty good but im no expert thats why im askin for help
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Here's a line up of some pipes available, l-r DCS4, Q v2, Qv1, HPR19
The last three are hi rpm power pipes, the DCS4 hops on the pipe abit sooner... I don't have the dyno chart atm. Hopefully someone can post it... Mitch?
I have one and it does hop on the pipe earlier. I think Mitch still has a used unplated one for sale....
(http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j300/Dezsled/photo80.jpg)
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Im buying a new pipe I want the opinions on which pipe would be best buy. I ride trails and want to know which is best for low/mid range. Help me make up my mind. I want the hpr 19 but I like the finish of the V2 so I need to know what the differences are and which is best for me.