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LT500R Quadracer => LT500 - General Discussion => Topic started by: Warmeck on January 14, 2014, 08:43:06 pm

Title: Re: what to look for in a zilla
Post by: Warmeck on January 15, 2014, 06:08:31 am
anything else? im going at 630 pm eastern time today.  B}
Title: Re: what to look for in a zilla
Post by: Dutch_Rutter on January 15, 2014, 01:04:00 am
On my 250 I got one that "needed the carb cleaned" turned out that the wrist pin came loose and messed up the cylinder as well as the crank bearings having play, just to get the crank rebuilt and new inserts in the cases I'm looking at $900.00 just for the bottom end. And that's with me taking it apart and putting it back together.

My mistake was being too much excited about it and not giving it the FULL look over. Ive always liked if the seller is specifically avoiding a topic to make sure to check it out. Always inspect the frame closely, and make sure to pull up on the frame to check the wear and tear on shocks and shock bearings as well as steering. Give everything a good wiggle to make sure its tight and not neglected. Good luck on the buy  (Y)
Title: Re: what to look for in a zilla
Post by: Zuki250 on January 14, 2014, 11:17:34 pm
Attempt to move the flywheel firmly up and down to determine any play.
If there is no compression then you are looking at new rings and maybe new bore and piston.
If there is play in the crank bearings as well, then you are looking at a complete tear down and possibly a need for the machining and installation of crank bearing inserts. Then factor in new bearings and bottom end rebuild kit.  Factor in labor as well.
This may be costly if you aren't able to do the rebuild yourself.
Title: Re: what to look for in a zilla
Post by: Warmeck on January 14, 2014, 10:40:02 pm
he said it dosent have compression so im already going to look for carnage as piston might have pieces in bottom end annd crank play/too much clearance
Title: Re: what to look for in a zilla
Post by: Warmeck on January 14, 2014, 10:38:53 pm
so i should tell him to take off flywheel cover and when i feel the flywheel how do i know if it needs crank work/bottom end if it moves a certain way? he already told me it needs front tires and hes going to include back mud tires
Title: Re: what to look for in a zilla
Post by: Zuki250 on January 14, 2014, 10:23:03 pm
Overall condition?
(factor cost to bring it to stock)

How hard is it to start? (Factor cost to get it to start first or second kick.)
(can they even get it started and prove it runs. Dont buy the "just needs the carb cleaned")

How well does it run?
Check compression and crank bearing play with flywheel wiggle.(Factor new top/bottom end, if needed.)

Is there a valid title? (cost to transfer title)

Currently registered or back fees? (factor cost to bring current)

What condition is the wiring? (factor rewiring)

Condition of the plastics, tires, axle, bearings?

There is usually a lot of room to negotiate when sticking to the big items while pointing out all the work that will need to be done. Leverage can be made by acting more disinterested as the deal goes on... Especially if it's been up for sale for awhile.

By reminding the owner of all the work that will need to be done, it makes it easier to get a fair price.


Title: Re: what to look for in a zilla
Post by: Dezsled on January 14, 2014, 09:31:20 pm
Chain & sprockets, air filter condition, rear shock blown? Engage the clutch.. Weak? Cables shot? Is there a headlight? Any stock take off parts included?
Title: Re: what to look for in a zilla
Post by: 250rider34 on January 14, 2014, 09:14:49 pm
Squish fixed on head and o ringed. Ears on cylinder welded/reinforced. If it's an 87 upgraded head studs
Title: what to look for in a zilla
Post by: Warmeck on January 14, 2014, 08:43:06 pm
hi i am wondering what can i say to a person that i am buying an zilla off to take down the price? i am already going to mention chasis bearing, engine bearings, bump steer mod,it needs a top end, hone maybe bore, kicker rebuild,  anything else that i missed that i can take down the price?