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Suzuki Quadracer HQ Discussion => Suzuki Quadracer HQ - General Discussion => Topic started by: CrustyOreo on October 31, 2013, 10:42:50 pm

Title: Re: Any Honda 250R experts here?
Post by: Hawaiiysr on November 17, 2013, 10:44:57 pm
I have since sold my friend and quadzilla and currently only one Hondas. 3 trx250r's.

Your Aarms are not stock. They look to be LS parts. Besides the arms, tires, and Aarm skid plates your quad looks stock. If you got it cheap then I say its a great score. Head over to trx250r.org lots of good guys with lots of information to be shared. Just the same as here.

I know this is a Suzuki site and everyone has a uncles cousin that has one that runs like an ape. Some wrong info was said here. 85/86 are short rod engines. 87-89 are long rod engines. 85/86 cylinders can be used on 87-on cylinders but a spacer plate will need to be used. Mixing and matching of all years are possible just as long the correct combination is used. Same goes for bottom end parts. As far as frames and suspension. 

Go check out that web site. Someone is always selling you "need" lol

Title: Re: Any Honda 250R experts here?
Post by: Zilla273 on November 06, 2013, 08:15:05 pm
I have a friend with a 350ct cylinder set up(unkown porting setup ) , ive been wanting to see how well my lt will hang with it.. ive ran it on the 500 and creamed it easy but I wana try 250, he will win the distance but I gota say this Carl(iceracer) 250 I think will make a good contender lol Hi^ S~
Title: Re: Any Honda 250R experts here?
Post by: Dezsled on November 06, 2013, 06:43:26 pm
I only have ridden the chrome bore cyl. It revved easier from what I recall, I never have ran the others. The middle rear is a brand new '87 cyl no not a atac chuckie sorry to say that would be nice to have. The one is for class 25 at riverside raceway, type III low end from what I was told. Here's the various chambered heads

(http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j300/Dezsled/8f00788f4ef26211f0e7bff012e64e36.jpg)
Title: Re: Any Honda 250R experts here?
Post by: Chuckie25 on November 06, 2013, 04:35:20 pm
Back row, middle cylinder. Looks like it's pretty new/nos

Is that a cylinder off an ATAC equipped bike?
Title: Re: Any Honda 250R experts here?
Post by: Zilla273 on November 06, 2013, 02:43:14 pm
dezsled, what one of them cylinders performed best in your opinion??
Title: Re: Any Honda 250R experts here?
Post by: ATVMXR on November 06, 2013, 12:07:22 pm
www.trx250r.org

LRD is now LED, thats who I would recommend


now get out of here with that  (pg) (pg) (pg) (pg) (pg)


 D?
Title: Re: Any Honda 250R experts here?
Post by: Dezsled on November 06, 2013, 12:55:54 am
Here's some cylinders laying around from back when...

(http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j300/Dezsled/945b6ed89a8d085d0b368bf972dcaeb7.jpg)

Etched under front left cyl

(http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j300/Dezsled/1b528009597fc1b82f12249e659c90a0.jpg)

Etched under front middle cyl

(http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j300/Dezsled/8b0e77044cd1dd4b863503d90a3976cf.jpg)

Etched under front right cyl, chrome bore 250cc

(http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j300/Dezsled/ca856c277ce72f52a0613e8b22920a0b.jpg)

(http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j300/Dezsled/2ea8c175a247e9bd762bef0d10ff5171.jpg)

(http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j300/Dezsled/6e126a22fc1c4f784d26433c84a4f80a.jpg)

I'm not looking to get rid of anything, thanks
Title: Re: Any Honda 250R experts here?
Post by: PCS on November 05, 2013, 08:26:55 pm
the ftz cylinder i used made 49whp with factory rechambered head, fmf pipe (atc), esr reeds, and pwk 39. nothing fancy but enough to blow sand in the face of many lt250r's.
Title: Re: Any Honda 250R experts here?
Post by: HayesTRX250R on November 04, 2013, 11:00:11 pm
Be glad to help with any questions you have just shoot a PM.  Looks like that frame has some nasty repairs.  I would check that swing arm for cracks. 
Title: Re: Any Honda 250R experts here?
Post by: Zilla273 on November 04, 2013, 04:33:29 pm
yeah that's what I was referring too,  I didn't no the port timing, the exhaust was covered by atleast 3mm of sleeve, they did port match the sides of the ex port but not upper.. so who knows what the exhaust duration was D? My buddy got the cylinder with his 250r when he bought it and the kid said "NAPA" machine shop resleeved. ive heard bad things about the napa machine shop in my town lol
Title: Re: Any Honda 250R experts here?
Post by: Iceracer on November 04, 2013, 03:51:44 pm
Any good sleeve job should include the port matching. Somone just slammed a stock sleeve into it. Bad move. Now they dont know the correct port dimensions or port angles for that setup. Ya it can be blended out but, you better have knowledge of the timing and duration they need to be.
Title: Re: Any Honda 250R experts here?
Post by: Chuckie25 on November 04, 2013, 11:40:31 am
Any competent porter should be able to port match the new sleeve to the FTZ cylinder for a really good price. It's not like a full on port job, just a quick match up and chamfer.
Title: Re: Any Honda 250R experts here?
Post by: Zilla273 on November 04, 2013, 11:15:41 am
as far as the boyesen ports and ex, the new sleeve was blocking port area on the transfers and exhaust
Title: Re: Any Honda 250R experts here?
Post by: Zilla273 on November 04, 2013, 11:11:42 am
my buddy had the atc cylinder that had been ported by FTZ but when he got the cylinder it had been resleeved so we didn't use it, all the timing was back to stock. That thing was opened up big time :o
Title: Re: Any Honda 250R experts here?
Post by: PCS on November 04, 2013, 01:28:05 am
Ftz does good work on Honda 250s as well. A cheap combo that I've personally used is a trx engine with an Atc cylinder, piston, and spacer plate.
Title: Re: Any Honda 250R experts here?
Post by: All American on November 02, 2013, 12:06:49 pm
WOW! Somebody has some nice toys hahmmmm dezsled
Title: Re: Any Honda 250R experts here?
Post by: Zilla273 on November 02, 2013, 07:30:52 am
those A-arms look like the ones on my lt250, I bought it with them already on +k2
Title: Re: Any Honda 250R experts here?
Post by: Dezsled on November 02, 2013, 07:08:48 am
I'm no expert but I did sleep in a hotel 6 last nite.  P*

(http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j300/Dezsled/b904cdc019ee316852059153dc0dc3f2.jpg)

Title: Re: Any Honda 250R experts here?
Post by: Chuckie25 on November 02, 2013, 06:57:57 am
You can put a Polaris 400 top end and Rotax 800 sled top ends on them and they get SUPER nasty haha

The TRX looks tiny next to an LT. There was one down on the river one day. I wanted to race him but you could tell that poor motor was tiiirreeeedddddd when he went to kick it off.
Title: Re: Any Honda 250R experts here?
Post by: GrkGuy on November 02, 2013, 05:29:58 am
piranhan pete is supposed to be the man when it comes to the 250r's
Title: Re: Any Honda 250R experts here?
Post by: 13.robb on November 01, 2013, 11:32:05 pm
Always had good luck with the ct cylinders, I prefer them to any of the esr stuff My wifes bike has a ct310 non pv motor, LRD adj pipe, 39 pwk, moto tasinarri cage. and it absolutely rips. Taken down lots of 330,350 even a few 370pvs with it. It takes a built 500cc or bigger thumper to outrun it. Makes power all the way thru the rpm range. Most esr stuff i have rode is like a lightswitch either on or off the power. I had a set of ASR +2 arms on my last 250r race bike and they were very beefy. I would buy those, ive damaged a few lonestar arms over the years, but the asrs seem stronger.
Title: Re: Any Honda 250R experts here?
Post by: CrustyOreo on November 01, 2013, 10:39:34 pm
How do u like the handling

Honestly on the trail riding, I couldn't notice it being any different from my non power-valved LT250Rs. The brakes though, those things are fantastic.
Title: Re: Any Honda 250R experts here?
Post by: CrustyOreo on November 01, 2013, 10:33:12 pm
Also looks like my A-Arms are lonestar units

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lonestar-Black-2-1-Sport-Front-A-Arms-Honda-TRX250R-TRX-250R-86-87-88-89-Shocks-/200982750839?pt=Motors_ATV_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2ecb816677&vxp=mtr

Not sure if they're +2 or anything. But they look just like those; finish and all
Title: Re: Any Honda 250R experts here?
Post by: CrustyOreo on November 01, 2013, 10:30:06 pm
I've seen Paul Turners. ESR. Sparks MX, Trinity, Aeens, and other brands for it on ebay.. Seems like Sparks MX made the most HP on a dyno.
I believe CT racing built them back in the day But I am curious who else did.
Title: Re: Any Honda 250R experts here?
Post by: All American on November 01, 2013, 10:14:26 pm
Can you give us guys on here some background info about the Honda 250R?  Such as who makes some of the best custom pipes for them, or engine mods people can perform to them?  I've never heard anything about them that they were a better performing 250R and they have a larger aftermarket following.  Who  are some of the big names of builders?  Im just curious.
Title: Re: Any Honda 250R experts here?
Post by: 13.robb on November 01, 2013, 09:56:10 pm
No doubt it handles! its a 250r!
Title: Re: Any Honda 250R experts here?
Post by: PCS on November 01, 2013, 07:37:34 pm
How do u like the handling
Title: Re: Any Honda 250R experts here?
Post by: CrustyOreo on November 01, 2013, 02:23:46 pm
Let the part hunt begin. Bought a set of original repo graphics. Bidding on a set of nerfs  S~
Title: Re: Any Honda 250R experts here?
Post by: Skeans1 on November 01, 2013, 01:29:38 pm
The other bike is a buddies and if I remember correctly it doesn't have grease zerts in the a arms.
Title: Re: Any Honda 250R experts here?
Post by: CrustyOreo on November 01, 2013, 11:02:33 am
I don't think the A arms are OEM. All the OEM a arms I've seen don't have greasable pivot points.
I also noticed it has a DG front bumper like my 500r.

Its not uncommon for guys to install grease fittings in the a-arms when replacing the bearings.Hard to tell from the pics but doesn,t look like the nut holding the balljoints threads on very far?
.

You would be correct
Title: Re: Any Honda 250R experts here?
Post by: Rainman56 on November 01, 2013, 10:20:07 am
I don't think the A arms are OEM. All the OEM a arms I've seen don't have greasable pivot points.
I also noticed it has a DG front bumper like my 500r.

Its not uncommon for guys to install grease fittings in the a-arms when replacing the bearings.Hard to tell from the pics but doesn,t look like the nut holding the balljoints threads on very far?
Title: Re: Any Honda 250R experts here?
Post by: BadMoonRacing500 on November 01, 2013, 09:45:46 am
The a arms almost look like burgards with a hammervein powdercoat.
Title: Re: Any Honda 250R experts here?
Post by: CrustyOreo on November 01, 2013, 08:57:41 am
I don't think the A arms are OEM. All the OEM a arms I've seen don't have greasable pivot points.
I also noticed it has a DG front bumper like my 500r.
Title: Re: Any Honda 250R experts here?
Post by: Iceracer on November 01, 2013, 08:28:36 am
Swing arm a-arms and rims should be gold if its original oem, not saying the parts are not, just been re painted, I know I would, not a fan of the Gold.
Title: Re: Any Honda 250R experts here?
Post by: Skeans1 on November 01, 2013, 07:48:48 am
There's a factory 86
Title: Re: Any Honda 250R experts here?
Post by: CrustyOreo on November 01, 2013, 07:16:06 am
Ermagerd pics

Title: Re: Any Honda 250R experts here?
Post by: CrustyOreo on November 01, 2013, 05:38:31 am
I'll upload the pics in a bit. I also just noticed the A arms have grease fittings where they meet the frame.
Title: Re: Any Honda 250R experts here?
Post by: Chuckie25 on November 01, 2013, 05:18:10 am
1) PICS

2) I'm no expert but a know a little about a little.

3) LUCKY. MOTHA. TRUCKA.

4) PICS!!
Title: Re: Any Honda 250R experts here?
Post by: All American on November 01, 2013, 12:49:29 am
 :o Well I just don't know what to say to that!  S~ Lol are you aware this forum is for SUZUKI 250r's?  P*

I'm just giving ya sh!t  ;) lol I just bought a new trx450r and you know what's sad?  :'( I still miss my zuki 250.   :-* Lol  so I'm selling off parts like crazy to get a "save my Zuki" fund going.  2c  I love the honda but my heart is missing the old girl badly.  >:D

And no I don't have a fender, sorry but best of luck with that  <1> and congrats on getting it for a great price.  (Y) Do you mind if I ask how much?
Title: Any Honda 250R experts here?
Post by: CrustyOreo on October 31, 2013, 10:42:50 pm
I picked up this 86 TRX250R on the cheap. (Like really cheap)
It's got an FMF and nothing else as far as mods go.

I noticed the A-arms have a sort of "wrinkle" finish. Is this factory? All the bearings feel tight and the seller didn't seem to know much about the thing. He put a clutch and rings in it and that was it.


Anyone have a right side OEM fender they wanna sell ;)