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LT500R Quadracer => LT500R - Engine => Topic started by: El Diablo on May 11, 2013, 09:10:57 pm
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Dale, How does she run? In your opinion, do you think a motor like this could be duplicated?
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That is some INTENSE reinforcement on the base! Incredible work :)
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Sounds like Dale needs to make another YouTube video showing off another one if his toys! I'm envious of you Dale, I hope I can have nice toys like you have down the road or when I grow up lol.
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I would like to see that bike run!!
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Mike Steiner..500 Fanatic did the original build. We talked extensively after I bought it. I've bought lots of stuff from him in the past, very good guy.
He put a lot of very good work into it, especially the extra cylinder and case reinforcement..a well known weak area. He sold it before he ever ran it. Of course I just had to look inside when I got it. I took it HPR for his opinion, He made some changes, we ran the motor...had to tear down again to fix the o-ring issue. Its good to go now.
P.S. the compression release is a nice feature.........
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Dale is that one of your frames, i see the rear shock has the lower top mount.
how does that bike run after Jerry fixed all the problems. and did you guys find out who built that motor.
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Sorry bought your luck --> I have some dandelions in my pasture that need to die if you need cash?
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Start it at $500 dude, I don't have a grand laying around right now.
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I have the Roid that TwinZilla had before. I keep meaning to get to it but other projects keep jumping in the way. PM if interested, it's a shame just to have it sitting on a shelf.
Ok you can't do that to us without some sort of baseline price and some more info? Or i'll start the bidding at $1000 -->
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Just wow
Serious equipment there
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I have the Roid that TwinZilla had before. I keep meaning to get to it but other projects keep jumping in the way. PM if interested, it's a shame just to have it sitting on a shelf.
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Dale, will you adopt me?
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That motor lives here now..all 670 cc's. It was disassembled, changes made to spacer plates, port timings, head volume/compression,...and the O-ring grooves had to be recut to proper size to eliminate blowing out when you nail it.
The twin carb set-up wouldn't work in this chassis and were replaced by a single Cutler 48 x 58.5 oval bore carb.
Its for sale.....................$7500.00...........No tire kickers and No free rides.
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Thank ye.
I'm gunna say 39s, bored to God knows what.
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Nice pics Kyle
Man are those 39pwks? Gotta be 35s?
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Pictures of the one from Bay.
(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x121/87Zilla02SnoPro/6701_zpsa7215ef3.jpg)
(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x121/87Zilla02SnoPro/6702_zpse0075f5c.jpg)
(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x121/87Zilla02SnoPro/6703_zps248b7ee6.jpg)
Say "AH".
(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x121/87Zilla02SnoPro/6704_zps2b1dea33.jpg)
(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x121/87Zilla02SnoPro/6705_zps2ca37546.jpg)
Moneyshot!
(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x121/87Zilla02SnoPro/6706_zpsca70a2da.jpg)
(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x121/87Zilla02SnoPro/6707_zps8dd1fed2.jpg)
Who is TRP?
(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x121/87Zilla02SnoPro/6708_zpsc0618716.jpg)
Trenchy!
(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x121/87Zilla02SnoPro/6709_zpsbec366df.jpg)
(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x121/87Zilla02SnoPro/67010_zpsab288a56.jpg)
(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x121/87Zilla02SnoPro/67011_zpsd78e968f.jpg)
(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x121/87Zilla02SnoPro/67012_zpsc9fd36c5.jpg)
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Sold it to a dude in Cali....
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i think twinzilla has a roid motor too,
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My next hybrid build = Five Finger Death Punch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVo8g7T39A4
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i chose names of bands that had something to do with an animal type name that came from that decade. other bands did produce more popular musics but their names did not sound like something you would call a beast of an animal.
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Its 2013 tex.
Your point?
Ok fine, use 3000 instead, see if I care.
There ya go
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Its 2013 tex.
Your point?
Ok fine, use 3000 instead, see if I care.
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i like these "power" names
zilla, roids, roidzilla,ligers, liger zilla, ect
reminds me of hair bands
white snake, pantera, scorpions, great white, white lion, ect
lmao. how do you put great white with pantera, how about Rat, Guns & roses, ozzy. ac dc. lots of better choices out there. lol
I thought the same thing, Pantera doesnt belong in that group of bands
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My next hybrid build = Five Finger Death Punch
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full tilt, aka Mike, aka 500fanatic was building a roid duner. Not sure if it was going in a hybrid or 500 frame. Really hate that he sold it instead of finishing.
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Poison, anthrax, pod, my chemical romance, n
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i like these "power" names
zilla, roids, roidzilla,ligers, liger zilla, ect
reminds me of hair bands
white snake, pantera, scorpions, great white, white lion, ect
lmao. how do you put great white with pantera, how about Rat, Guns & roses, ozzy. ac dc. lots of better choices out there. lol
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Just add 2000 to the name and it will sound powerful AND futuristic.
ex. "There's our inter-dimensional friend Bert, he's riding that Ligerzilla 2000."
Its 2013 tex.
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Just add 2000 to the name and it will sound powerful AND futuristic.
ex. "There's our inter-dimensional friend Bert, he's riding that Ligerzilla 2000."
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i like these "power" names
zilla, roids, roidzilla,ligers, liger zilla, ect
reminds me of hair bands
white snake, pantera, scorpions, great white, white lion, ect
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skully is the only other person with a ligerzilla.
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don't really know. dyno'd it in November. showed 98hp at 8200 rpm. but I didn't gear the bike correctly to load it so it was able to have a lot of advance in the ignition curve. I would say its safe to say around 102-108hp. I haven't had it back to a dyno yet.
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I know some of the first roids had their share of teething problems. Just wondering if any of the builders have looked into developing them further for increased reliability?
Chris, good luck, be safe, & have fun on your outing. Who besides yourself do you know of that is running a zilla based liger? I think it would be a good subject for a writeup on building a ligerzilla... unless there are certain trade secrets to keep?
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Simpleton, what kind of HP numbers do you think it's making?
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alot goes into building a liger. mine is a destroked bigbore longrod liger. 685cc. so far its stayed together this go around. my fastest pass so far is a 4.14ET in 300ft. Fat rich, no lockup, no N2O, out of gear and safe timing. only time will tell if it will get into the 3's.
there is wedling of the cases. machining them true again. making of an adapter plate. crank work. cylinder, piston, rod, reeds, intake, carb, pipe, ignition, battery, fuel pump, clutch, over ride. your looking at two maybe three complete zillas just for the motor. no even looking at the frame to get it to hook up. lol. its been a ride. but hopefully when its all done i could sell it and pay for not one but both my kids college. :))
im debating on taking the liger to a dune race this coming weekend or just riding the 540 and seeing what it does.
but i will def post results the weekend of the 25th (weather permitting). got the lockup in and regearing and rejetting. maybe even spray to get that 3 second mark. lol
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How much machine work is involved in making one of these cylinders fit on a Zilla bottom end?
Just curious, I'm got my top end at hpr so I'm just window chopping
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There where a few twinzilla had one with a stock big reed cage i kicked around buying. not sure where it got to. Last i heard skullys was a paperweight. one guy had one in a hybrid for the life of.me cant remember his name. the one on ebay was full tilts i believe his name was mike? Skully switched to the liger it was more economical to make and way more reliable chris has got very impressive numbers from his so far and it still hasnt reached it potential. i dont really see the point other than a straight line or hillshooter tho.
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I remember hearing about triple carb with computerized nitrous blathering...
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Roid motor and liger are diffrent roid is a big reed bored out huge. believe it has a +3mm stoke also. The liger is a cp aftermarket cylinder. Only roid i know of dale has.
There's 2 that I know of. The dual carb never run one that was on fleebay and Skully's
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I've got pictures of the one from eBay if anyone wants a laugh.
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Man those liners are thin
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One of my favorite pics!
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From what i hear the "roid" motors where time bombs and never really stayed together long enuff to ever make any good times. now the liger on the other hand chris got his running pretty well.
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Roid motor and liger are diffrent roid is a big reed bored out huge. believe it has a +3mm stoke also. The liger is a cp aftermarket cylinder. Only roid i know of dale has.
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Who is the one that bought the complete roid engine on e-bay that 500Fanatic built? Maybe we can get some more pictures posted & a performance report?
(I guess I just answered part of one of my original questions)
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I thought the roid cylinder was just bored into the water jacket and sleeved to be 650cc or larger but can't run liquid cool as a result. I'm probably wrong but that's what I thought
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I always thought that the Liger was casted by CPI as a whole different animal. If I remember the thread from the other forum, the Roid started out as a zilla cylinder that was heavily bored out using a different sleeve, had some sort of snowmobile intake grafted into the stock location, and was heavily reinforced around the ears.
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Brian, I believe the roid motors were CP industries Liger cr500 cylinder grafted on to a zilla bottom with an adaptor plate to = 650CC+ http://www.cpindinc.com/pub/view_product/63?lm=5&name=3101-9779-144 I believe Pirahana pete schemberg was building them. Ask Chris Stapleton I believe he had one or still does.
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Keep your cylinder away from Preparation-H if you want it to stay that size.
(http://cdn.motinetwork.net/demotivationalposters.net/image/demotivational-poster/1207/preparation-h-hemorroids-fire-butt-health-burn-demotivational-posters-1343626167.jpg)
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Make sure to drink lots of water while taking roids to help clean your liver.
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Cool this thread isn't what I had envisioned!
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I remember seeing this in the old forum so I thought I would bring this back up.
What is involved in transforming a zilla cylinder into a roid cylinder? Are these a one trick pony or can you MX / dune one of these? What kind of power figures are typical & what is average longevity? The big question... Who builds them?