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LT250R Quadracer => LT250R - Engine => Topic started by: SuzukiRacer on March 17, 2013, 06:32:50 pm

Title: Re: jet sizes
Post by: MotorGeek - Jerry Hall on March 23, 2013, 09:29:44 pm
Keep in mind most castor oils aren't compatible with race fuels under a certain specific gravity. I know this inclues Sunoco Purple and maybe even c12.

Different brands of castor have different detergents (additives) to improve mixing.  It is up to the individual to test their fuel and oil for solubility at the temperature that they will be using the fuel. 

If you are experiencing mixing problems, a pint to a 1/2 gallon of pump gas in 5 gallons of fuel has always fixed the mixing problems Maxima 927 has had in any race or Av. gas I have used.  Adding 1/2 gallon of pump premium in 4.5 gallons of race gas will reduce the octane less than two octane points.





Title: Re: jet sizes
Post by: HectorTheHut on March 23, 2013, 07:44:35 pm
Keep in mind most castor oils aren't compatible with race fuels under a certain specific gravity. I know this inclues Sunoco Purple and maybe even c12.
Title: Re: jet sizes
Post by: MotorGeek - Jerry Hall on March 23, 2013, 07:35:28 pm
I have been building two stroke motors since the late 1960s.  I have not seen any new technology in castor oil in the last 40 years and I have still not found any two-stroke lubricant that does a better job than castor oil.  Castor oil has some unique properties that petroleum and synthetics do not possess. 

Dick Lechene founder of Maxima Lubricants told me many years ago that all of the US oil companies get their castor from the same two or three barges that comes to the US each year.  How the different oil companies press it (filter it) and the additives each company uses that improve its "mix-ability" with gasoline is basic difference from one two-stroke castor oil to the next 

The fuel/oil ratio DEPENDS upon how the engine is operated.  A two-stroke engine that only runs at an idle will receive adequate lubrication at 80:1 to 100:1.  Large two-stroke engines (100cc to 500cc) running ONLY at wide-open throttle needs fuel/oil ratios in the 10:1 to 20:1 range.  Some model air planes engines run fuel/oil ratios of less than 10:1. 

It becomes obvious that one has to choose whether we want to mix enough oil in our fuel for the most severe mode of engine operation or go with less oil and limit the amount of time that we can spend at each brief blast of wide open throttle.  An engine needs ratios below 20:1 when the throttle is wide open and the RPM are high for more than about 3 to 5 seconds.
Title: Re: jet sizes
Post by: SuzukiRacer on March 18, 2013, 12:25:00 pm
This thing won't be done till about may or june so I can start my 32:1 then. Ill check on that carb number soon then.
Title: Re: jet sizes
Post by: BadMoonRacing500 on March 18, 2013, 12:21:23 pm
If you want to ride it in the cold I would switch now. Klotz is good thats what I run in my snowmobiles. Pull the plug on the bottom of the carb and back the main jet out and tell us the number. Stock for 89 is 240. As old as it is i'm sure it's been messed with, better off to check it.
Title: Re: jet sizes
Post by: SuzukiRacer on March 18, 2013, 12:16:13 pm
Ya I use klotz. I'm gunna assume a stock jet. I'm not sure what's been done to it. Just got it a few months. Been sitn cause of the intake boot. But me and dad are doing the 32:1 on are racers this summer.
Title: Re: jet sizes
Post by: LT250RWV on March 18, 2013, 11:35:33 am
Yea that's way too much.
Title: Re: jet sizes
Post by: BadMoonRacing500 on March 18, 2013, 11:23:48 am
20/1 is way to much oil, use a good quality oil such as Maxima 927, klotz super techniplate, amsoil dominator and mix at 32/1 to start with. The better quality of oil now doesn't need as much oil to protect the same. Also more oil in the mix means less fuel, and a leaner engine. Also run at least premium grade fuel or higher. What main jet is in it now?
Title: Re: jet sizes
Post by: SuzukiRacer on March 18, 2013, 11:09:49 am
20:1 and might switch to 32:1 this summer
Title: Re: jet sizes
Post by: LT250RWV on March 18, 2013, 10:53:34 am
Its all stock what ratio of oil  to gas you running.
Title: Re: jet sizes
Post by: SuzukiRacer on March 18, 2013, 03:42:03 am
Its an all stock 89 racer. No mods,pipes,or mufflers. Stock carb. Stock jets I'm assuming.
Title: Re: jet sizes
Post by: BadMoonRacing500 on March 18, 2013, 12:27:05 am
What size jets should I put in my carburator for winter? Do?  I go bigger or smaller for the sizes?
Well my friend, unless you want a bunch of smart a$$ comments, you need to tell us more about your Zuki.
What year, pipe,carb any porting? Pictures help.
Title: Re: jet sizes
Post by: LT250RWV on March 17, 2013, 09:09:59 pm
What mod you have and what is your jetting now
Title: Re: jet sizes
Post by: HectorTheHut on March 17, 2013, 06:40:00 pm
Go 1 main jet size larger every 20-30 degrees lower than 60 degrees and adjust your air screws
Title: jet sizes
Post by: SuzukiRacer on March 17, 2013, 06:32:50 pm
What size jets should I put in my carburator for winter? Do?  I go bigger or smaller for the sizes?