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Riding / Racing / Riding Parks => Racing => Topic started by: Alkyzilla on March 13, 2013, 08:24:05 pm
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The shee is cool. Very cool. Couldn't imagine spending the money needed to build it.
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HOLY MOLY!! +1 for the it looks fast forwarded. Wow, a rocket for sure....them twins are pretty fast!
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Apples to Oranges..Love affair over.
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That thing is evil!!!!
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wow that almost looks fast forwarded lol, thats gota be hell to tune with a turbo
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and sad to say they were 10mph slower that day than they usually are
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Yeah it's nothing fancy lol it's just gonna be faster than the other guys lol
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Sounds like somebody >>> me <<< needs to step up their game! +k2
Glad to see you all had fun!
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Sounds like its gonna be a good runner Chris. from talking to Matt sounds like it will run very well. He knows what hes doing. If his turbo banshee puts down 180-200hp and his caracal putting down way more than that. I'm sure he can build a hard running single. He does have a pretty bad ass honda single cylinder. Just saying.
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It's gonna run hard and be bad ass like all Matt's motors. It's not a big bore its not a striker it's just a 511 on alcohol.
yeah nothing fancy right. lol
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It's gonna run hard and be bad ass like all Matt's motors. It's not a big bore its not a striker it's just a 511 on alcohol.
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Lol! Wondered when you would be back!
There will be other trips out to the dunes when everything's put together ... chill man
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It's all in fun. Just a lot of heckling going on, quit being such crybabies. Go change yer diaper S~
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Looks like nice machines makin good power....heck with all the bashing, thats all childish crap. Go out n have fun n ride the old machines. And thanks to all the builders out there that show love to the old beasts...and the lil 250s as well!
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uh Matt is building zilla motors,
Matt has been doing zilla motors for a long time.
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How's its gonna run? Duh -T
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Matt is building a motor for me yes. What is it exactly that everyone is wondering about it?
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uh Matt is building zilla motors,
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Um.... a rolling start an Q had to take evasive action.
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So awesome to see the continued interest and advancement in these old dinosaurs. Nice to see Shearer throw his hat in the ring too... Hopefully, he'll find time put something out soon, maybe even his own port and pipe;)
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I have alot of respect for you Dale and Ken.2 classy posts.
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well, You would have hear from me, but Mitch banned me until after the race.
Everything posted is true. We were all shocked on the one run, only RK can speak to that. The bike was having teething pains, but it is what it is. Fact is Jaime's bike ran quite hard and was only about a length or so off of Dale's bike. With my extreme weight handicap my bike ran well enough to at least have some runs. All in All it was an awesome trip. THe Duning at Dumont is epic. Dale's bike was sweet, as is Zelda.
It really was a tuner's who's who. With Shearer, wildcard racing, JH, & Q bikes all hitting the hill. The comment made about the 500's being comparatively slow is soo true. The fastest 500 was in the high 50's, Shearer's turbo Banshee's where cruising up the hill in the 70's MPH just on tuning runs capable of 90's. The Turbo banshee's are some of the sickest machine's I've ever seen in the dunes, the sound alone is incredible. puts things in perspective for sure.
The main case in point on the 500's is it takes alot of effort to be fast with a 500 & the amount of time & money it takes just to be a little faster isn't worth it IMHO. I say build them to where YOU like it and the bike doesn't break and be happy.
The trip we had was only about 10% about the Dale/ Q race; the rest was all about awesome riding, excellent food, enjoyed with a top notch group of guys. The fun factor was off the chart. Dale & Bonnie & the LV crew really missed out on Sat. nite's cookout.
There really is no need to keep the hate going, the glue that binds us is an love for these great old bikes and getting out and RIDING them.
Ken I appreciate your post... You and I both know it was a strange and awkward situation after the one run..... glad you other guys got in the mix and hit the hill .....and I don't know why Matt Shearer felt the need to show up except to maybe rub in his obviously fast machines and claim he can and is building a better LT500 than the current players out there.. we all want to see it.... These 500's will never be in the league with the balls-out banshees,.. their overrides and turbo motors... whatever.
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Pipester, Pipester where art thou Pipester? Please tell us what is between your pipes and air filters. Is that a comparable bike(duner) to run with Dale and Rob?
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who said anything about mud. lol.
lol.....Mud,wet dirt,track after heavy rain,you get my drift.
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who said anything about mud. lol.
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Have to agree on the sand part.No dunes around my area but going through pure sand in an old gravel pit is completely different than wet mud.You really gotta stay on the top of the pipe or you go no where.
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Stpltn 250---The sand really is very different from any dirt wet or dry. Its amazing the power it seams to suck out of your quad. Hope you can get out to the sand and play some time. You can experience it for yourself but more importantly you can have the funnest time of your life on your quad.
If your ever coming through Utah head out to Utahs little sahara dunes by delta. The riding area is about the size of Glamis /Gordon wells ( i think that what its called) and we have the tallest dunes in the USA, The good and the bad is other than easter weekend there is no one there. That means you dont have to worry about getting run over but part of the fun of duning is seeing others and their toys.
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Maybe Josh I will make it out to Sahara on a ride and see how it is there also.
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The racing up the hill was on radar. You think Matt made it out there on this "BIG" race and not see how the competition stacked up. The race video with the banshee smoking everyone to the top was in fact a 485 PV motor(pretty sure) and the radar was reading mid to low 50's on mph. If these motors are supposed to be 70-80hp bikes. Why are they so slow?
How much experience do you have riding in the sand dunes? The sand is an absolute HP robber.
Absolutely none. But with that being said. A prepped watered down track should not be any different. Hopefully April 6th I will be seeing the dunes first hand. Well what LA has to offer anyway. I will than know how the two compare. But its not like what I said is not true.
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well, You would have hear from me, but Mitch banned me until after the race.
Everything posted is true. We were all shocked on the one run, only RK can speak to that. The bike was having teething pains, but it is what it is. Fact is Jaime's bike ran quite hard and was only about a length or so off of Dale's bike. With my extreme weight handicap my bike ran well enough to at least have some runs. All in All it was an awesome trip. THe Duning at Dumont is epic. Dale's bike was sweet, as is Zelda.
It really was a tuner's who's who. With Shearer, wildcard racing, JH, & Q bikes all hitting the hill. The comment made about the 500's being comparatively slow is soo true. The fastest 500 was in the high 50's, Shearer's turbo Banshee's where cruising up the hill in the 70's MPH just on tuning runs capable of 90's. The Turbo banshee's are some of the sickest machine's I've ever seen in the dunes, the sound alone is incredible. puts things in perspective for sure.
The main case in point on the 500's is it takes alot of effort to be fast with a 500 & the amount of time & money it takes just to be a little faster isn't worth it IMHO. I say build them to where YOU like it and the bike doesn't break and be happy.
The trip we had was only about 10% about the Dale/ Q race; the rest was all about awesome riding, excellent food, enjoyed with a top notch group of guys. The fun factor was off the chart. Dale & Bonnie & the LV crew really missed out on Sat. nite's cookout.
There really is no need to keep the hate going, the glue that binds us is an love for these great old bikes and getting out and RIDING them.
well, You would have hear from me, but Mitch banned me until after the race.
Everything posted is true. We were all shocked on the one run, only RK can speak to that. The bike was having teething pains, but it is what it is. Fact is Jaime's bike ran quite hard and was only about a length or so off of Dale's bike. With my extreme weight handicap my bike ran well enough to at least have some runs. All in All it was an awesome trip. THe Duning at Dumont is epic. Dale's bike was sweet, as is Zelda.
It really was a tuner's who's who. With Shearer, wildcard racing, JH, & Q bikes all hitting the hill. The comment made about the 500's being comparatively slow is soo true. The fastest 500 was in the high 50's, Shearer's turbo Banshee's where cruising up the hill in the 70's MPH just on tuning runs capable of 90's. The Turbo banshee's are some of the sickest machine's I've ever seen in the dunes, the sound alone is incredible. puts things in perspective for sure.
The main case in point on the 500's is it takes alot of effort to be fast with a 500 & the amount of time & money it takes just to be a little faster isn't worth it IMHO. I say build them to where YOU like it and the bike doesn't break and be happy.
The trip we had was only about 10% about the Dale/ Q race; the rest was all about awesome riding, excellent food, enjoyed with a top notch group of guys. The fun factor was off the chart. Dale & Bonnie & the LV crew really missed out on Sat. nite's cookout.
There really is no need to keep the hate going, the glue that binds us is an love for these great old bikes and getting out and RIDING them.
Well said and Sounds like a good time.
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The banshee rider looks like he,s only 120lbs soaking wet. ^-^
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seems like when they get to the steep section of hill the HPR torque takes over, P* id say for the banshee being a 485pv engine dales bike did GREAT,
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The racing up the hill was on radar. You think Matt made it out there on this "BIG" race and not see how the competition stacked up. The race video with the banshee smoking everyone to the top was in fact a 485 PV motor(pretty sure) and the radar was reading mid to low 50's on mph. If these motors are supposed to be 70-80hp bikes. Why are they so slow?
How much experience do you have riding in the sand dunes? The sand is an absolute HP robber.
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Come on guys, this little thread is racing, no horse play, picking on each other,
Maybe we could get for a sqhq group hug..
good race dale! way to really best that other guy.. Shucks way to go!
All my posts chuckie.. Place is starting to feel familiar...
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STOP DELETING POSTS.
Yes 414 but one of my legit posts talking about posts being deleted and biased donkeys running the place was deleted.
Dude, stop giving people a reason to delete your posts and they won't be deleted.
If you "keep posting until they stop being deleted", you're just going to get the banhammer.
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thanks for the info. SandFox. I really wish I could have been there. It seems like a lot of people are on one side or the other which is too bad. I was under the assumption that everyone was going to camp together, party together, dune together and then race. that's how it should be. If I lost I wouldn't just keep racing either. I would make another run for sure but from what you said it sounds like Q wanted to race again on Sunday. I guess I just relate a lot of this to drag racing. If you loose you are eliminated until the next round of races. there are qualifying sessions where you make runs, tune and then you get to the finals. it's a proven system and just because one guy looses one time doesn't mean he won't win the next. one race doesn't determine who is the best of the best forever. seems like everyone takes this stuff way too seriously. these should be friendly battles. I don't understnad why so many people bring up other issues and hold grudges when reality is that it takes the fun out of riding/racing. D?
If more people thought like you we wouldn't be having all this disrespectful BS floating around right now.
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Sand was either loaded to much or not enough!
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The racing up the hill was on radar. You think Matt made it out there on this "BIG" race and not see how the competition stacked up. The race video with the banshee smoking everyone to the top was in fact a 485 PV motor(pretty sure) and the radar was reading mid to low 50's on mph. If these motors are supposed to be 70-80hp bikes. Why are they so slow?
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I'm just gunna keep posting till my posts stop being deleted.
Then "Please stay on topic" so they wont need to be deleted.
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Keep it on Topic or the threads will be removed, This site is PG Please watch your language.
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STOP DELETING POSTS.
Yes 414 but one of my legit posts talking about posts being deleted and biased donkeys running the place was deleted.
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I was being out of line. >:D
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I'm just gunna keep posting till my posts stop being deleted.
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And yes I know the 'that banshee was sick' posts are some of the ones deleted but in the time that it took me to type and submit that last post Rider414's 'F**k tha banshee' post got deleted
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I appreciate the post sand fox threw out there. Another post made it sound like Dale didn't want to race Q, but it really sounds like a case of bad timing.
Man that must have been pretty devastating for Q to get ruined enough to not want to race Dale again. Long drive for one pass!
Well now is the time to regroup, do more testing. Thanks for the post sand fox!
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thanks for the info. SandFox. I really wish I could have been there. It seems like a lot of people are on one side or the other which is too bad. I was under the assumption that everyone was going to camp together, party together, dune together and then race. that's how it should be. If I lost I wouldn't just keep racing either. I would make another run for sure but from what you said it sounds like Q wanted to race again on Sunday. I guess I just relate a lot of this to drag racing. If you loose you are eliminated until the next round of races. there are qualifying sessions where you make runs, tune and then you get to the finals. it's a proven system and just because one guy looses one time doesn't mean he won't win the next. one race doesn't determine who is the best of the best forever. seems like everyone takes this stuff way too seriously. these should be friendly battles. I don't understnad why so many people bring up other issues and hold grudges when reality is that it takes the fun out of riding/racing. D?
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Already working on it and the other Mods have been asked to help keep the thread clean on any Bashing.
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HottButta: That was a Matt Shearer built Banshee (of course the thing is going to scream), and Matt will have to respond on what was in it. Matt was out there and had a few toys with him. That guy video bombed our race..... lol! But hey! It was a really nice bike.... but Banshees are a whole 'nother level. I will post some pics tomorrow of some other Banshees that were there. One trick purple one was from Wild Card Racing. We waited a few hours for that one to run against someone, but no one took the bait while we were there. He was changing the gearing anyway.
Mad Max: I offered to put stakes up (at least for a clear finish), but I didn't have time to stop by Home Depot as it was totally an after thought. :-\ I was told that it was supposed to be fun anyway and it's not that serious. But I think you can tell by the posts how serious this matchup was.
Stpltn250r: Matt Shearer had a radar detector out there, but I don't think he was ready for the sudden "single pass" that happened either... so we don't have a reading on the speed of their run. :-\ Matt.....?
Buckeye513: THERE WAS ONLY ONE PASS MADE WITH DALE. RK made a few runs later with Jaime and Kennerz on the yellow 500's, Aaron on the black HPR 500, and also with some dirt bikes. And actually, Jaime beat RK at least twice.
Most races like this that I have seen over the years are not with lanes or stakes (but I have seen lanes at Glamis on Thanksgiving weekend). Most often it is not a competition for money or trophies, with sponsors, advertising or announcers. This is just two guys who are trying to prove who's bike is faster based on the builder. Guys like this line up all the time at every dune hill out there. It's all for bragging rights. D? And yes, usually guys will make several passes when they race. I have never seen a race as big as this one where both bikes are running good and one guy just gives up. [|] After that one pass, RK went back to his group, took his helmet off, and called it a day. Dale rolled over there to find out what was up, and even offered to make it best 3 out of 5 passes - but Robert refused. Imagine what it was like for the spectators knowing you drove 5-6 hours for ONE 15 second run? We were in complete shock and as spectators .... felt gyp'd.
No one can trash talk Dr. Q's stuff - he builds good bikes - and others do too. and if we don't watch what we say, this thread will be closed too. We don't want that.
Mitch? Is there a way for you to just delete certain posts?
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Post are going OFF TOPIC, take the bashing to other forums please, This is a racing thread.
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If Q wronged you, post about your experience on those other forums and move on.
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These bikes may be competitive by themselves. Some will disagree to that statement. But with that being said unless these bikes start doing 70+ mph up the hill. They aren't that fast.
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YO! Someone get some specs on the shee!! That thing ate BOTH those "500"'s for a light snack!!!!!! I say who ever built the shee is the dune boss
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Annoying or not there's some history you and others need to be aware of. Probably better off to let Q defend himself on another forum.
The second video definitely shows the gap better!
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that was a great video SandFox. I think another race should've been run though. I would think there would be flaggars at the start and lanes of some sort for such an important race and probably one without a banshee. was that guys with you? actually I noticed you said everybody was thinking it was a practice run. when you guys normally race out there is it setup like a drag rce and lanes normally? I would take any of those bikes other then the banshee anyday ;D
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damm last vid wont work for me, just a black box. :(
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Ya you seem to be "that guy" who always is messing around trying to stir shiz up but "oh not being serious". Keep it yourself..nobody needs it.
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Lest we forget who really one. That Banshee which left the gate last. Does anyone know what is in that bike?
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Just re watched it Dale definitely rolls the start. Evil tribe is gonna claim false start! Lol
A lot of what you're seeing is the angle of the video.
dale does roll up to the start but if you look at RK at the moment of start, he turns his head and they both pin it with in a 1/10 of a second. You can also see both of their roosts and Q's is again a 1/10 of a second slower.
Gotta to say RK put a lot of work in to Zelda with the 1000 intake and the dual carbs etc Dale is doing pretty good to beat that bike with a duner none the less.
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Forget the start, How about the last 1/4 of the race, seems to me Dales bike made his ground in the top end. 2c
And in the end, the olive branch was extended by the loser. Seems like everyone had a fun weekend and everyone got home safe. I say we move on past this mess. If ice racing was this drama filled, I'd prolly stop racing. I enjoy my hobbies to relax the stress of everyday life, Not drive my blood pressure up.
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We don't have big sand hills over here. What is proper shooting etiquette? Was Dale REQUIRED to maintain his line? C:-) Or like motorcross, you can close doors since you are in front?
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Just re watched it Dale definitely rolls the start. Evil tribe is gonna claim false start! Lol
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So this is about character now? Good vs. Evil? Tribe vs. Tribe?
I would have liked to see a couple of more races. Anyone who has lined up in the sand knows one little slip up can mean your eating sand. I would love to have either bike and I hope this is all in fun but it's not sounding like it.
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The race on that video is the first race in the Vegas video. Which also showed Q running the hill 2 more times. So there's video evidence that contradicts one story, that Q ran the hill once and that was all he did. Two sides to every story as always but clear that dale won that race. I liked the look back as he and rk got close together right as he really started to pull away halfway up the hill.
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I like the 2nd video and it was a lot closer off the start then I assumed it was from the lead at the end.
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The reason there are not more videos posted is because I think most everyone there assumed it was just a practice run. Hardly anyone had their camera's ready - and there were plenty of people and camera's there. But unfortunately, the whole thing was over before anyone could blink.
Let's set the record straight: RK showed up almost 20 minutes late to the 2 pm race (fashionably late - making a grand entrance). There were no practice passes. A single pass was made, and RK hung it up - Dale even offered him best 3 out of 5 passes, but RK refused.
A phone call from RK to DF about 3 hours after the race was to invite him over for carne asada and beer. No doubt it was a nice gesture, but DF was there with his family and they already had dinner cooking. But let's be serious, with all the smack talk and BS videos behind the scenes leading up to this event, would YOU go hang out with this guy? Uh...no.
When Q offered to race again Sunday - DF asked what time, and Q said about 9ish. At 10:00 am Sunday (with a no sign of Q), DF packed it up. At 10:40, Q comes over asking if DF wants to go on a dune ride. That is not a refusal to race. Dale has NEVER refused to race... ever. That was a refusal to unpack everything for a "dune ride". He has a 5+ hour trip to get home while RK has a two and a half hour ride.
As for duning, both of DF's dune bikes went on 2 short dune rides Saturday - I was on his 500 and DF was on his hybrid. We spent the morning looking for Q on the hill (at 9:55 and 12:00, and DF finally had to go chase RK down in his camp - and that's how the 2pm race time even got set). I have been riding DF's bikes for for many years. He rides them all over Glamis and let's me do the same. DF doesn't own a "special lower level duner bike" - he always has a duner that he can also race up the hill. He has at least 2-4 dune bikes any given day, and usually has a drag bike or two in the works. It is a hobby for him - a serious one. And for him to hear someone bragging CONSTANTLY about their stuff being "the baddest on the planet", or "there is nothing else in Zilla World like his Q-built bikes", or spank racing all these hotshot bikes (mysteriously when no one is around)... well.... that stuff gets old. Especially when the guy smack talking won't line up to prove himself, and has said repeatedly that dyno testing isn't the real world. Well, after 5 years of refusing to line up with Dale until now, here is the real world:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nv4MVxczoTY
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WOW. Did you bolt all those parts on yourself?
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http://youtu.be/447Cb5WS410
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dont remember seeing that video... [|]
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There's a yt video Alkyzilla put out recently. The Zilla he was riding picked up a Nic name....
I can't link to it unfortunately.. That is one nice LT500
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(pg) Gay
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My guess would be every time he posts it stirs all the high school like bs drama up.
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Amen
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Well I don't post a lot but since I was there the whole weekend I think I'll clear some stuff up... Dale clearly won the race and for that I congratulate him... RK's bike did not have nothing sneaky on it and he even shook Dale's hand after the race.. A second race was supposed to go down Sunday morning but Dale decided not to race and go home...Dale was invited to go riding with us and chose not too. He and his group were invited to our camp that night for beers and carne asada but again chose not to come... I saw dales bike in person and it is a bad a@# bike however I never saw it in the dunes. Zelda went on two good dune rides and is another nice build... I have no stake in the outcome and only went to have a good time and see some sweet zillas in action... I think some people bring a lot of hate to our past time and it needs to be let go... There are too many people wanting to stop atv riding all together we should be here as a group to have fun and help each other out... That's just my two cents...it was a really good trip and I am glad I got to be there...
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When you look at the vid, q has a helmet cam. Considering his real world results, not sure how he can use the footage in his infomercials.
Hey quadracer gang, wellllll, got my ass handed to me on an HPR plate and had to wash it all down with some purple koolaid yuuup!
^-^
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There has to be another film. Q wouldn't trust VegasG with the footage if he would have won. Like Bush blowing up the pentagon, where are the other cameras?
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Maybe if the guy with the camera could keep up we would be able to tell who was who at the finish line...
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Q an Dale only went head to head one time?!? I couldn't figure out who was what, but I could see a clear winner. I bet the phone at HPR is getting a work out...
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Wait, all this buildup and only one race? Looks like I did'nt miss a whole much then, My quad couldnt compete with these guys for sure, but I figured there would be at 5 or 6 pass's ? Oh well long as all had fun, And I hope Dale and RK got to sit back and have a beer together at least.
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Sorry, but that footage is garbage. Anyone else get some decent footage? I really couldn't make out who was who but judging by the reactions i reckon Dale won. lol. Nice running Dale, how was the rest of the trip?
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I don't know how much riding they did or when everyone came home, but I would be home sleeping and pretty tired after a hard weekend of dune riding. I am sure we will hear from the guys when they catch some zzz's
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Guess kennerz "seat of the pants" turned into seat of his granny pants!
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He was way back in one of the vids...
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Hmmmm... Anyone check for a Sneaky Pete? And where is Kennerz?
Thought the same thing myself.??
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kennerz got quiet all of a sudden......
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Hmmmm... Anyone check for a Sneaky Pete? And where is Kennerz?
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Yeah, I'm not sure exactly how you de-tune a 2-stroke other than giving it some fat jets.
If I had a roid engine and dropped some fat jets in the carb, I bet it would still make more power than a dune port 500.
Can anyone clarify how the de-tuning was done?
He supposedly took the nitrous and air shifter off it.. Or so he said in the video.
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The best way to de-tune a bike is throw my 240lb. ass on it.
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He lowered the idle ::)
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Yeah, I'm not sure exactly how you de-tune a 2-stroke other than giving it some fat jets.
If I had a roid engine and dropped some fat jets in the carb, I bet it would still make more power than a dune port 500.
Can anyone clarify how the de-tuning was done?
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RK was playing by the rules and he did detune his bike.
Did you help build the engine? What was done?
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RK was playing by the rules and he did detune his bike.
I can't tell who's who in that video. Cant see the launch.
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It was a really good race and I am glad everyone had a chance to go race. Both bikes looked very fast with Dale shooting out front really quick.
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I'm glad the race happened. Been waiting a long time. Good race Dale.
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Sweet....glad the race happened. Wish we could've made it out ;D
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Did Shearer make it out?
Any videos of him racing?
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That was great footage.
Race on Sunday, sells on Monday.
I hope my stuff shows up!
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so your saying it shouldn't be about fun then.
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Good job dale!!
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So did everyone go out and have fun and get along. At the end of the day all that matters is you are happy with what you have.
agree 100%
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So did everyone go out and have fun and get along. At the end of the day all that matters is you are happy with what you have.
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Tex your right.But they all have good stuff. I never messed with q before. .I have had Jerry do work for me before.Which im pleased with and fast turn around. I just get sick of the whos better and who haves the most jewerly on their quad.Where here to help each other not the other way around.
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LT250RWV, if it wasn't for personal issues with RK, I'd say you're 100% right.
If an Edelbrock intake makes 10% more power than the Holley and costs 3X as much, you won't be quite as fast but you'll be able to afford more go-fast products for your car.
The best and fastest is only important if the money isn't.
However, there's other stuff like customer service, attitude, honest business policies, the question of if you will ever see those parts again when he gets them, etc. etc.
Only chance RK has to get back into the running is by changing all of that about himself, enough so that it convinces those of us who have been wronged in addition to new customers, that he's a trustworthy and reliable builder who will honor legitimate issues....but I'm afraid he's way too set in his ways.
His only income is going to be from guys who don't know any better, and he knows it.
tl;dr
It's not his products, it's his attitude.
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Who cares really. They all got nice bikes and parts forsale yoyo.Your trying to tell us q pipe isnt worth suzukiquadracerhq.Only made 2 less horse power on the dyno. Are you saying you run fmf or the other pipes before a q pipe. Jerry pipe is a great pipe to whatever dale makes.I dont know.They have all pushed the Zilla to what it is today.So who care who is faster.Their a turbo raptor that would have smoked everything on the hill that day.Doesnt matter how fast we get these old quad their is something faster out their. Why do you have such hate for 1 person.[\b]
long story brah and isnt part of this thread.
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Who cares really. They all got nice bikes and parts forsale yoyo.Your trying to tell us q pipe isnt worth (pg).Only made 2 less horse power on the dyno. Are you saying you run fmf or the other pipes before a q pipe. Jerry pipe is a great pipe to whatever dale makes.I dont know.They have all pushed the Zilla to what it is today.So who care who is faster.Their a turbo raptor that would have smoked everything on the hill that day.Doesnt matter how fast we get these old quad their is something faster out their. Why do you have such hate for 1 person.
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awsome race. congrats to dale and all who played. i would gladly give my, - and all of your- left nuts for either one of those sweet rides. Nice
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Detuned!!!!???? Ya right.
Who shows up to a gunfight with a knife? Guess he should have been humpin the dyno after all!
RK carries his dyno in his butt, someone must have knocked out the claibration..
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Detuned!!!!???? Ya right.
Who shows up to a gunfight with a knife? Guess he should have been humpin the dyno after all!
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Detuned!!!!???? Ya right.
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Yeah, he let Dale win because he's too busy planting dead stuff in his yard. Its about fun, not about who has the fastest ride. LMAO
for fun lol... Imagine the gap if they were really racing!
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I'm not a customer of Q nor a customer of Jerry like I stated I have no horse in the race and I'm unbiased it matters to me not who won it who lost all of this is entertainment to me and the face that grown men get so worked up about races they're not even participating in is laughable to me.
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Yeah, he let Dale win because he's too busy planting dead stuff in his yard. Its about fun, not about who has the fastest ride. LMAO
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Run what ya brung wasn't that the challenge? And buckeye you chat with a few ex Q customers on his prices...
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Were you there? That video shows Q running 3 races... How was he only running one and done? And as I said previously I don't doubt Jerry's ability or Dale's ability as far as machining and building a Zilla I'm just saying not everyone has the money to have Jerry do their motor. Lets also remember Q is on a detuned hybrid build dale is rolling his top dollar dune bike. Just expressing my take and my opinion man no need to get so worked up.
I had friends that were there who reported back to me what happened. You don't think that Zelda isn't considered top dollar? A hybrid lightweight bike with a motor/pipe supposedly God built himself? If you think it was detuned then you fell for Knipplebergs way of playing mind games.
Everybody showed up wearing their big boys pants...no excuses.
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Were you there? That video shows Q running 3 races... How was he only running one and done? And as I said previously I don't doubt Jerry's ability or Dale's ability as far as machining and building a Zilla I'm just saying not everyone has the money to have Jerry do their motor. Lets also remember Q is on a detuned hybrid build dale is rolling his top dollar dune bike. Just expressing my take and my opinion man no need to get so worked up.
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Tell me they ran more than one run!? Pretty pointless to race one time and crown a champ based off one run.
Cause Knippleberg didn't want any part of Alkyzilla after that....he wouldn't race him again. Bad for marketing you know....
Not really I'm willing to bet there are 2 to 3 times the Q pipes out in the world compared to the HPR#19
Are you that obtuse?? If the videos show Knippleberg getting continually beat again and again, people put less faith in his crap and don't purchase it. Thats why the snake that he is decided one run and no more. Thats how he works, I'm sure he will have some excuse or conspiracy theory on why he lost for all the FUGGS out there.
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Tell me they ran more than one run!? Pretty pointless to race one time and crown a champ based off one run.
Cause Knippleberg didn't want any part of Alkyzilla after that....he wouldn't race him again. Bad for marketing you know....
Not really I'm willing to bet there are 2 to 3 times the Q pipes out in the world compared to the HPR#19
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Tell me they ran more than one run!? Pretty pointless to race one time and crown a champ based off one run.
Cause Knippleberg didn't want any part of Alkyzilla after that....he wouldn't race him again. Bad for marketing you know....
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No sound?
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Excellent footage!
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DUDE, Dale had one HELL of a lead!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGudr1xb9To
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Tell me they ran more than one run!? Pretty pointless to race one time and crown a champ based off one run.
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4 bike lengths? I just want to see the videos!!
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way to go Dale, and Jerry Hall... guess there is not anyone who can build a faster zilla than you.
and you guys just proved that in a real world race.. no dyno needed..
how does it go; if you not first your last.
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Looks fast not even moving. D?
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Looks like a 250 seat to me...
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Saaaweet bike! Whats the seat off of?
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Nice!
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I can already hear it shaws and no front brakes..... bla bla bla go get em alky!!! that thing looks mean!!!!
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If theres action out there today I'm missing it......I bet its just practice for tomorrow.
Doing my final loading gonna get on the road, unfortunatley the new drag build isn't going. The O-rings under the head in the big Roid motor won't hold under load, couldn't even get a clean dyno run out of it. I think top of the cyl was decked after the grooves were cut...they certainly aren't deep enough for the o-rings and I'm out of time to tackle that job now. Very disappointed,... Next Trip I Guess!
I'll let you guys look it over a bit anyway.
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Today and Tomorrow is suppose to be the big show down. C:-)
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Quebec? now what did I do to deserve that?? I am from southern Alberta.
lol........I just seen the bec part of your name.Poor assumption on my part...Oilers or Flames fan?
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Quebec? now what did I do to deserve that?? I am from southern Alberta.
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TUNED IN!!!! Pics and vids!!!! Be safe out there guys!! +k2
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what time should we expect the results..
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oh boy did everyone check in, dont want anyone not showing up cause of a cold or something like that.
the count down is on, Ken how is RK holding out, is he OK? its been pretty quite on you tube.. ;D
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Very Small town outside of Waterloo in Ontario Canada.By your name I assume your from Quebec?
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Where about a in Canada are you from rainman?
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Try finding LT,s on the Canadian side of the boarder.Or parts for that matter :(.
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You have a point chuckie but honestly my Zilla is the first one ice ever seen in person. Have seen and ridden a couple 250's but finding Zilla's in any running shape around Cincinnati isn't something you see frequently.
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I just wanna see lots of video posted of all the action. Us Midwest and east coast guys will probably never get a chance to ride with that many lt's all at once much less ride the dessert dunes out west.
You Midwest and easy coast guys at least have other Midwest and east coast peeps too hook up with. I'm all by my damn self down here in Louisiana! LOL
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I just wanna see lots of video posted of all the action. Us Midwest and east coast guys will probably never get a chance to ride with that many lt's all at once much less ride the dessert dunes out west.
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I don't know if they will let you on the plane without shoes, But you'll get through TSA screening faster than anyone else I bet.
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Yo if someone pays my plane ticket ill be a jockey!! I weigh a buck fifty AND no shoes = less wind resistance! Hell, it don't matter WHO I'll run anyone's bike LOL
Yo if someone pays my plane ticket ill be a jockey!! I weigh a buck fifty AND no shoes = less wind resistance! Hell, it don't matter WHO I'll run anyone's bike LOL
Only if someone gets a vid of you starting it with bare feet.:lol
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Yo if someone pays my plane ticket ill be a jockey!! I weigh a buck fifty AND no shoes = less wind resistance! Hell, it don't matter WHO I'll run anyone's bike LOL
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LOL close...my pipe builder almost cut his finger off on Friday, had a bunch of stitches, now back to work!
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Challenges have delayed my #05, should be done Thursday.
Got trapped on the short bus without a helmet?
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Challenges have delayed my #05, should be done Thursday.
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better watch there is still time for someone to get sick and not show up.
not talking about you Mitch....
cough cough ! Naw the Version 5 should be dropped off today and just in time to do some testing, like to go out 22nd with it, might need a jockey to ride it just to keep in the pack with these guys.
Ill be a 155 lb jockey send me a plane ticket!!
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Have fun and be safe everyone. Also don't forget the videos us keyboard warriors need a fix too.
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Keep Chumming up the water man!
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HAHAHA!
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Oh when is everyone getting out to Dumont? Friday, Thursday.
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You have stirred up fish stew
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Bret does that mean you and Fred can't join us? I agree it will be interesting, and I have stirred the pot more than necessary, but come on up... It's really different duning there and regardless of the racing bs it will be the fun that counts.
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Be interesting to see how this goes down somebody PLEASE GET SOME VIDEO.
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I wish i could come to Dumont , I wouldn't know what to do seeing all those lt in one place, I;d probably thought i died and went to heaven. You guys are so lucky you can do that. I haven"t even got to ride with 1 lt in the 2 years since i owned mine. Who cares who has the fastest bike, just enjoy being able to ride with each other and hanging out isn"t that whats it all about anyways, And smash anything out their isnt a Lt. Im sure their will be some bighead Banshee owner or some pokes out their.
I know what you mean. I have never ever even seen another Zilla out riding.....
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You'd think that should be the case, as there's plenty of events for actual competition...Planet Sand, drag strips, Pike's Peak, etc., you know, places that have safety cones and Christmas Trees and checkered flags and stadium lights and grandstands.
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I wish i could come to Dumont , I wouldn't know what to do seeing all those lt in one place, I;d probably thought i died and went to heaven. You guys are so lucky you can do that. I haven"t even got to ride with 1 lt in the 2 years since i owned mine. Who cares who has the fastest bike, just enjoy being able to ride with each other and hanging out isn"t that whats it all about anyways, And smash anything out their isnt a Lt. Im sure their will be some bighead Banshee owner or some pokes out their.
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Sure do , just saying we seem to have a few lookie loo's here on the site is all
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You do realize mitch you dont have to be logged in to see this thread, right?
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LOL news travels fast,...................... Good work Dale!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viIxpBJTLKM&feature=em-uploademail (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viIxpBJTLKM&feature=em-uploademail)
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I am pretty sure he will be out. Said a little bird. Who ever goes will have fun. Remember we ride to have fun
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better watch there is still time for someone to get sick and not show up.
not talking about you Mitch....
cough cough ! Naw the Version 5 should be dropped off today and just in time to do some testing, like to go out 22nd with it, might need a jockey to ride it just to keep in the pack with these guys.
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If anyone wants to come by our camp between 9-10 sat am we will have a open house of sorts,.. you can look the bikes over close, I'll answer questions.
Wonder if the Q camp would be as obliging? Or ?
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better watch there is still time for someone to get sick and not show up.
not talking about you Mitch....
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Well guys I think the Hook has been set well enough +k2...... I had to play it a bit..I've had the weekend open all along, I will do Mexico later in the week,..(get in some fishing). just had to make sure there would really be some commitment ,.. ironic as it is RK gave me the "fisherman" nickname trolling for victims at the hill during zillathon in Glamis,(where the big boys ride through the whoops)... but Dumont will have to do this time. I'll be there the 23 & 24th,... and my racer bud tony @ T&N says he's coming bringing some kinda "big gun"?? WTF? (That guys crazy with the additives)......I told him no juice allowed in the duner class but he doesn't listen...., Gonna be lots of fun!!
I got a few buddies coming along.. 5 LT's I know of now...3 dune form bikes and two drag setups. If anyone wants to come by our camp between 9-10 sat am we will have a open house of sorts,.. you can look the bikes over close, I'll answer questions. After that it will be time to ride,do a little dial in and get to the duning/racing!
LMAO, had a feeling thats what was going down. As soon as I saw the Q video, was expecting a reply like this. I am going to try and make it out. Will see if the other lt500 crew will come out also...
Hope you didn't go all in to soon....
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Dale you play a good hand of poker, but I knew you were baitin with the wiggly dicks crooked bait & tackle +k2
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Hmmmm. So, I guess you won't be at glamis that weekend.
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Have a blast and take a bunch of videos i need to get my dune fix any way i can.
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Get some videos
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I say, splendid trolling my good sir...
(http://www.dumpaday.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/funny-kitten.jpg)
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GoPro everything!
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Well guys I think the Hook has been set well enough +k2 ...... I had to play it a bit..I've had the weekend open all along, I will do Mexico later in the week,..(get in some fishing). just had to make sure there would really be some commitment ,.. ironic as it is RK gave me the "fisherman" nickname trolling for victims at the hill during zillathon in Glamis,(where the big boys ride through the whoops)... but Dumont will have to do this time. I'll be there the 23 & 24th,... and my racer bud tony @ T&N says he's coming bringing some kinda "big gun"?? WTF? (That guys crazy with the additives)......I told him no juice allowed in the duner class but he doesn't listen...., Gonna be lots of fun!!
I got a few buddies coming along.. 5 LT's I know of now...3 dune form bikes and two drag setups. If anyone wants to come by our camp between 9-10 sat am we will have a open house of sorts,.. you can look the bikes over close, I'll answer questions. After that it will be time to ride,do a little dial in and get to the duning/racing!