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LT500R Quadracer => LT500R - Body / Chassis / Suspension => Topic started by: Dragzilla346 on March 04, 2013, 04:54:24 pm
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If i was you i would buy a better pipe and cut off ure dumbo ears. that will get you further than a axle and swinger will. i had my first zilla at 335 with stock a arms and swinger with stock axle. believe me when i tell u that its really hard to get under 300# without spending some serious $$$ i know first hand. But seriously them dumbo ears will prob give u a 10th or more and a better pipe will really wake it up. Thats where id be investing. Im not gonna specify a pipe cuz i dont want to cause a pi$$ing match. If u would like ny advice just pm me ill give u my # i dont really get on forums anymore there is too much drama lol. I have weights of everything documented.
i know what you mean lol, pm sent
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a banshee swinger is only about 1/16th wider at the pivots, i bet if a person was good enough they could make one work on an lt and have a extended swinger for about half the price of the lt. plus it gives a lot more options for lengths. just have to figure out the shock situation.
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If i was you i would buy a better pipe and cut off ure dumbo ears. that will get you further than a axle and swinger will. i had my first zilla at 335 with stock a arms and swinger with stock axle. believe me when i tell u that its really hard to get under 300# without spending some serious $$$ i know first hand. But seriously them dumbo ears will prob give u a 10th or more and a better pipe will really wake it up. Thats where id be investing. Im not gonna specify a pipe cuz i dont want to cause a pi$$ing match. If u would like ny advice just pm me ill give u my # i dont really get on forums anymore there is too much drama lol. I have weights of everything documented.
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Lots of weightto loose if i knew what i know now my bike would be 250 range.. course then again i woulda built a banshee if i could go back oh well live and learn.
No kidding, there comes a point where running an LT is just more work than it's worth.
Only so many banshee parts you can use on an LT before it becomes a banshee anyway LOL
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I know that my Lonestar drag axle is probably half the weight of the stock axle setup. My +12 swing arm and axle are probably half the weight of the complete stock axle hubs, rotor etc...
JJ&A was quite a bit out on axles according to him about 2 weeks ago. My buddy talked to him down in Oregon at the Redline open house dyno day. He ordered his axle from Shearer. A few guys on Ebay have them in stock.
Aaron
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Lots of weightto loose if i knew what i know now my bike would be 250 range.. course then again i woulda built a banshee if i could go back oh well live and learn. Come over pa and race ill let you try my zilla out 500ft.
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yea ive heard of him, i go over in blanchester and race 300' dirt drags all the time.
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Andy Morris. Outside of Cincinnati in blanchester.
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I like the idea you had of reversing the hub to narrow the rear LOL
yea it did the job, heres a pic from the rear
(http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd193/CSR400EX/narrowrear.jpg)
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There is a guy building my chassis for my lt500 based bike that is in ohio.
whats his name, i may have heard of him?
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I like the idea you had of reversing the hub to narrow the rear LOL
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There is a guy building my chassis for my lt500 based bike that is in ohio.
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My friend bought a set in 91 for his 86 250 QR. they still have 3/4's of the tread still after being on quite a few different quads.
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I have had those realtors on my raptor for about 8 years. I COULD NOT wear those suckers out !! They wore like Iron. I finally replaced them last month---BRICKS
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the realtors are longgg gonnne, i figured out there no good realll quick lol. after the first ride i took them off and switched to itp holeshots for awhile, then i finally found some 4 snows mounted on 5 lug rims, the top picture is whats on it right now. color combo is white and chevy hugger orange that came on the old muscle cars.
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What couldn't handle the U of M blue and yellow and had to go with Buckeye colors --> JK, looks nice actually like the colors, haven't seen that combo before on a zilla. Get rid of the realtors for weight savings. they weigh 27 lbs each 54 lbs for 2 tires.
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last years setup
(http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd193/CSR400EX/zilla-1.jpg)
before i added the wheelie bar
(http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd193/CSR400EX/Picture001-1.jpg)
(http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd193/CSR400EX/Picture002-1.jpg)
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im from southern ohio, and ill post some
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el diablo swaped in a factory sub frame from a honda 400ex that shaved some weight off the zilla and looks nice, search on the forum for some pics. 400ex sub frames are cheap and easy to find.
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lets see some pictures. where are you from?
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my bike is a 87, and its mainly dirt and sand drags both, its already set up for a wheelie bar right now. all of these look like good ideas, theres a few guys locally that build drag chassis that could help me on the front end setup and some other things.
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Another set up. Looks like Precision Powersports in Missouri.
(http://www.precisionpowersports.com/photos/RaptorSingle-01.jpg)
(http://www.precisionpowersports.com/photos/RaptorSingle-02.jpg)
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You could do a set up like what four pokes do. Its one single a arm and the spindle is set up to use a spindle banshee wheel or a tapered banshee wheel or I guess could turn it to fit a stock zilla hub, but than the top of the spindle is the actual mount for the shaw or strut. Pretty nice looking.
(http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r26/trikeffex/photo.jpg)
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What year bike are you running?
If it's an 87, I know for a fact the front A-arms, ball joints, spindles, & shocks weigh a TON. Maybe a aftermarket A-arm set up with aftermarket front spindles and marvin shaws all the way around might be the way to go?
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Tex is correct. Depends on how far you are willing to go. Narrowed plus foward a arms? Shaws? JJ&A? Where do you race, are you going to need those 4 snows or are you going to need paddles? Wheelie bar? Spindles mount tires? I think you can only go so far with a stock bike than they become a pain in the ass. The time and money spent on a strictly only dragger will be better spent on a rigid chassis. I've learned that from experience.
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You've got a lot of room for improvement there.
If it's drag only, consider using a solid strut on a single a-arm for the front.
If you want shocks up front, you can still get by with a simple single a-arm setup but you're a little more limited in where you can ride.
Having a shock in the rear can sometimes help launch and control.
Marvin shaws are a good lightweight option.
I guess the question is how far do you want to go with it?
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stock and stock. was looking into some marvin shaw shocks to save some more pounds too
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Yeah, might as well strap a boat anchor to the swingarm while you're installing a durablue, because you probably won't notice the difference :D
What kind of A-arms and shocks you running?
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i hope so, i already have the front brakes gone, no headlight, airbox is gone as well, very small front tires and 4 snows in the rear. the axle would probably help alot being its rotating mass and not dead weight, anything is gotta be lighter than a durablue HD axle lol.
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275lbs should be possible without cutting the frame...you really don't get anything out of cutting the frame, 10lbs max.
Better to bolt lighter stuff on than take framework away.
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^^ just what i was looking for, 275lbs would be awesome to get down to, but gotta bring myself to cut on my frame :-\
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These 2 threads should help you out with the lightening.
http://www.suzukiquadracerhq.com/racing-builds/820-teardown/
http://www.suzukiquadracerhq.com/racing-builds/drag-frame/
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ill have to check them out, im just looking to save some weight anyway possible without building a drag only frame. also is there anything else i can do to lighten it up a bit?
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alkyzilla a Cunningham run a jjanda with metal tech. my hill frame has a jjanda set up and me new dragger for the liger/zilla will use a jjanda. think a stock zilla axle shaft with no hubs(wheel,sprocket,rotor) weighs roughly the same as a jjanda complete minus carrier.
better call jjanda if you want one. last I heard he was a week behind and shorthanded.
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isnt cunningham running a jj&a axle???? He has a nice set up on his zilla check his out
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looking to set my zilla up for drags, anyone oever tried a metal tech swinger with a banshee carrier and drag axle?? wonder if theres any benefits in running a drag axle or not. its getting to be that time of the year to race and gonna get my quad on the right track. Thanks in advance!!