I run cst pulse 20/11/10 on the back of my 85 lt250r  they hook  better than the new holeshots on my sons 230 quadsport. They have taller lugs than a holeshot spaced a little  farther apart , and are a harder compound.  They are advertised  as a 6 ply ,but when i got them they are 4 ply but said to have a 6 ply rating.  They  been all over  gladwin trails , bull gap and silver lake dunes. No problem  getting up the biggest hill at silver lake in third gear.  Probably  could pull forth but the jones' are always  parked on top so your shooting between  parked trucks  praying knowone walks in front of you.   I wouldn't  mind having  paddles  for the dunes. But no complaints  about them .  When the holeshots  wear out on the quad sport  i will buy  a set of cst pulses  for it as well.