I run cst pulse 20/11/10 on the back of my 85 lt250r they hook better than the new holeshots on my sons 230 quadsport. They have taller lugs than a holeshot spaced a little farther apart , and are a harder compound. They are advertised as a 6 ply ,but when i got them they are 4 ply but said to have a 6 ply rating. They been all over gladwin trails , bull gap and silver lake dunes. No problem getting up the biggest hill at silver lake in third gear. Probably could pull forth but the jones' are always parked on top so your shooting between parked trucks praying knowone walks in front of you. I wouldn't mind having paddles for the dunes. But no complaints about them . When the holeshots wear out on the quad sport i will buy a set of cst pulses for it as well.