Author Topic: 2 Stroke Oil Recommendation (Read 1917 times)

AWedel · « **on:** November 01, 2012, 06:42:55 pm »

I've had my '85 LT250R mothballed for many years and now I'm getting back into it. I always ran Bell Ray MC1 oil without issue. In the age of biofuel brilliance (aka ethanol) is MC1 still the ticket and if so what octane. This may also be a shocker, but I always ran the MC1 at 50:1 without issue--this was according to the dealer. Is this nuts?

Dezsled · « **Reply #1 on:** November 01, 2012, 06:57:09 pm »

Is Bel Ray still around?

Mitch Keller · « **Reply #2 on:** November 01, 2012, 07:01:09 pm »

HERE YA GO DEZ http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/p/43/72/214/933/-/4282/Bel-Ray-MC-1-Synthetic-2-Stroke-Oil/bel+ray+mc-1

AWedel · « **Reply #3 on:** November 01, 2012, 07:03:03 pm »

Good question. I wondered the same, but according to Google, there are lots of places that sell it. I suppose that's not to say Bell Ray is no more and places are selling odd lots and end runs. Sure is more expensive than when I bought it in 1986!

Anyway, I'd appreciate any thoughts/comments on my original post. Thanks!

Q2W · « **Reply #4 on:** November 01, 2012, 07:18:20 pm »

There are lots of good oils out there. Bel Ray is not one of them

Try 927 or a Klotz.

BadMoonRacing500 · « **Reply #5 on:** November 01, 2012, 08:24:36 pm »

Quote from: Q2W on November 01, 2012, 07:18:20 pm

There are lots of good oils out there. Bel Ray is not one of them

Try 927 or a Klotz.

This

AWedel · « **Reply #6 on:** November 02, 2012, 12:30:34 am »

Ratio on the 927 or Klotz? Gasoline octane?

Q2W · « **Reply #7 on:** November 02, 2012, 06:51:26 am »

typical is 32:1 for most bikes. Some run 24:1 on the more radical ones. 100LL aviation fuel or better or detonation will occur. might not be enough to melt down your bike, but it will shorten the life span of your piston and possibly damage the cylinder.

ZillaInNC · « **Reply #8 on:** November 09, 2012, 08:41:29 am »

I use 927 and mix 50:1. Should I being using a different ratio?

Mitch Keller · « **Reply #9 on:** November 09, 2012, 09:35:53 am »

Rule of thumb is : 24 to 1 for Hill Shooting / Standard Riding 32 to 1
Best way to figure what is the best ratio for your type of riding is to test ratios while riding, mixing higher rations until you notice some fouling of plugs then back down the ratio, everyone rides differently and has different lubrication needs.
FYI factory states 20:1

ZillaInNC · « **Reply #10 on:** November 09, 2012, 12:03:45 pm »

Hey Mitch, what spark plug is best for the Zilla?

Stpltn250r · « **Reply #11 on:** November 09, 2012, 12:19:44 pm »

br8egv or br8es or the non resistor plugs...b8egv or b8es

egv is a platinum thin wire electrode plug and the es is the copper core electrode plug.

there is an entire thread on plugs i do believe

Mitch Keller · « **Reply #12 on:** November 09, 2012, 12:53:21 pm »

Spark plug heat is determined by again your. riding style, Oil Ratio and Porting and Head Compression :
OEM BR8EGV or BR8E or the non resistor plugs...B8EGV or B8ES
I run a 55cc dome High Compression so I run a BR9E plug

Glamisrider · « **Reply #13 on:** November 09, 2012, 07:56:19 pm »

You want a castor based 2 stroke oil, the coat better and do not disperse from heat.

You want to run Maxima 927 or Klotz. Klotz does have I believe benoil and a super techniplate, there are some cautions when using the supertechniplate as I believe there are 2 different kinds/formulas of this stuff.

If someone cares to chime in with more info on the Klotz products.

Roach · « **Reply #14 on:** November 10, 2012, 06:22:53 am »

http://www.klotzlube.com/products.asp?cat=4&pg=2

there are a few diff types. we always use the super techniplate. have been for years

Stpltn250r · « **Reply #15 on:** November 10, 2012, 09:58:21 am »

benoil smells good. i run it with methanol it doesnt seperate at cooler temps,

ZillaInNC · « **Reply #16 on:** December 31, 2012, 04:34:19 pm »

What gear oil you guys run in your 500's?

GrkGuy · « **Reply #17 on:** December 31, 2012, 05:32:39 pm »

10-30 motor oil

1986QuadRacer · « **Reply #18 on:** December 31, 2012, 11:19:55 pm »

Ford type f is not bad for the colder weather. It is cheap too but prolly breaks down faster so if you would use it maybe change it more often

Glen · « **Reply #19 on:** January 10, 2013, 05:40:43 pm »

I have the 'Zilla and also a Honda CR250. Nothing but 927 for both

Yuzuha32 · « **Reply #20 on:** January 10, 2013, 05:44:43 pm »

blaster, LT, CR, and ALT all get 927 and VP C-12

Dezsled · « **Reply #21 on:** January 10, 2013, 07:06:48 pm »

Geeze that's expensive.... I paid $123. For two 5 gallon cans of C12. I think I sheit alittle when I paid

Yuzuha32 · « **Reply #22 on:** January 11, 2013, 10:25:28 am »

not much cheaper for me 117.52 last time i bought 2 cans but it seems to store very well and both the LT and Blaster are cut for race fuel. so with me working all the time sometimes it takes me forever to get through 5 gal. was thinking about buying a drum but your only saving a couple bucks a can

Stpltn250r · « **Reply #23 on:** January 11, 2013, 10:30:42 am »

Thats why I love running methanol. Going price now is 180 for a 50 gallon drum.

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