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Ran good Bogged down, and now not good?
« on: April 17, 2017, 04:07:35 pm »
1987 LT500r was running like a top for many rides, Always started second or third kick Today I was ripping hard was running very nice till.

I was racing mr bro inlaw up a set of forect service roads with switch backs, he on a 421 banshee....pulling high gears up the last hill it bogged down like wa ping wa ping waa waaa waaa... then it would reastard but do the same right away. Then no kick start at all only with pulling it fired  ping ping ping but then the crap wawawa again??

Things I already checked. Carb jets clear yup, spark plug was a bit rich but ok, I switch a new one anyway, coil, and cap also checked.

Just cleaned the filter UNI was ok clean (now very clean), It now kicks back into my boot and I feel uncomfortable trying anything else till I figure out more what it could have cased a perfectly good one kick when warm quad turn into a nightmare?

Any help will be much a peraciated.

Specs mint shape restored almost all stock, Only has a FMF pipe, and UNI filter will get the jet specs for the stock TM 38mm for you guys tommorow.
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2014 KFX-450R big 2
1986 TRX-310ESR
2004 TRX-450R hybrid
1996 Banshee 421 Serval MX
1988 Quadzilla fully restored
2006 CR-265R motion BB
2001 CR-500R
2005 DS-650X
2005 Argo Avenger

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Re: Ran good Bogged down, and now not good?
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2017, 04:50:40 pm »
 I would take a look at the flywheel key.

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Re: Ran good Bogged down, and now not good?
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2017, 04:57:41 pm »
Thanks for that, You might be on to something. I will check asap +k2
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2014 KFX-450R big 2
1986 TRX-310ESR
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1996 Banshee 421 Serval MX
1988 Quadzilla fully restored
2006 CR-265R motion BB
2001 CR-500R
2005 DS-650X
2005 Argo Avenger

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Re: Ran good Bogged down, and now not good?
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2017, 06:33:41 am »
I think supernutt nailed it.  either flywheel key failed or the flywheel rivets failed.

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Re: Ran good Bogged down, and now not good?
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2017, 11:13:43 am »
I just pulled the ignition cover and yup you guys are correct. What came first the chicken or the egg, situation.

But it would seem the flywheel nut was not tight enough, and it vibrated a bit and took out the pickup coil. When I took the nut off it cam off with no effort.

The key is also a bit rounded but still in place. I will defently get a new one.

Im kind shocked how small the key and keyway is, seems a bit small for such a big 500cc, its like half the size of a banshee keyway...

Thanks for your help guys, you rock  +k2
Current Rides
2014 KFX-450R big 2
1986 TRX-310ESR
2004 TRX-450R hybrid
1996 Banshee 421 Serval MX
1988 Quadzilla fully restored
2006 CR-265R motion BB
2001 CR-500R
2005 DS-650X
2005 Argo Avenger

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Re: Ran good Bogged down, and now not good?
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2017, 03:06:22 pm »
The strength or size of the key is not what keeps the flywheel from spinning on the shaft.  The correct torque on the nut wedging the two tapers together is what keeps the flywheel from slipping.  The key's only purpose is to properly index the flywheel with the crankshaft so that the ignition timing is correct. 

The tapers suffer some damage when a flywheel spins on the crank.  Lap the tapers together with some valve lapping compound to make the tapers fit each other properly.  Proper torque on the nut will not prevent the flywheel from slipping if there is minor damage to the tapers. 
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Re: Ran good Bogged down, and now not good?
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2017, 03:29:36 pm »
Sounds good MotoGeek thanks.
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2014 KFX-450R big 2
1986 TRX-310ESR
2004 TRX-450R hybrid
1996 Banshee 421 Serval MX
1988 Quadzilla fully restored
2006 CR-265R motion BB
2001 CR-500R
2005 DS-650X
2005 Argo Avenger

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Re: Ran good Bogged down, and now not good?
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2017, 12:08:13 am »
Hey motorgeek how is that you can answer Questions on this forum for free but won't email paying customers back ? Have been wait for you to email me back for update and have tried ringing you with no luck . Please explain ?

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Re: Ran good Bogged down, and now not good?
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2017, 04:19:59 am »
Jerry is insanely too busy to answer the phone. When you are the best in the world at what you do, this tends to happen. Maybe your foreign IP is going to his junk mail. If you see he is answering on here, ask on here.

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Re: Ran good Bogged down, and now not good?
« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2017, 06:44:46 am »
He emailed straight  away for the job and the money since then , I have sent email after email and have spent over 7k with him already on the bike . He communicated on here only 4 days ago but will not respond to me at all . I know he is super busy but it takes the same amount of time to return emails as it does to give free advise on here. Paid up front in full and 4 months later nothing . i have 2 of the biggest races in my country coming up and no idea if i will be even racing this year . Communication is the key especially with paying customers .

 

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