Shortly after posting this,we ended up getting a nos carb, set it to factory settings,and right from the first start it was noticeably better, did minor tuning and plug chops and this thing runs like a **** ape, starts easy, plug color looked great, im thinking there was something wrong in the idle circuit of the old carb and the slide was also very worn, brought it up northern Michigan for sone trail riding over the 4th and put over 8-9 hrs of time on it and all is well