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Banshee Front Hub Swap
« on: October 02, 2012, 10:15:36 pm »
Ok guys just finished this up on my 87 thought I'd share some info with everyone.

The first thing your going to need is a pair of hubs from a Banshee,later years are the best probably a arm 91ish up. Why u say? Well because the early ones use a different set of rotor bolts that don't sit flush with the rotor and they will hit the caliper mounting bracket. You can use the early style hub, but if you do you will need a set of rotor bolts from a newer Banshee and you will have to bore the top of the bolt holes out of the hub for the lip on the newer rotor bolts, and the rotors have a little bigger holes in them too. Also early Banshee hubs have shorter wheel studs so if you have a set of aftermarket aluminum wheels the studs are not long enough to get a flat washer and a lock washer on.
The next thing is this will require a lath, once you get the hubs apart (bearing and seals out ect) the rear bearing bore needs to be made .200 deeper. Once that's done the spacer that goes between the two bearings needs to be .200 shorter. Take it off the the side that faces the big inner bearing not the outer bearing. The bearings have the same od so get yourself a new set of hub bearings and seals for the Banshee hubs press them in and your done no shimming of the caliper required. One thing worth noting is that the banshee uses slightly smaller rotors so the very outside of the pad wont contact the rotor but i don't see this effecting much.
If anyone would like me to mod a set of hubs for them i can do it along with most other machine work I have a fully equipped machine shop. Pm me I'm always willing to help with what i can.

Thanks for taking the time to read through this.
Ben

This is the early Banshee rotor bolt and rotor


This is the later rotor bolts and rotor


The two side by side you can see how much more  the early bolts sit up then the later ones











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Re: Banshee hub swap
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2012, 03:47:48 am »
http://www.suzukiquadracerhq.com/chassis-suspension-17/front-hub-swap/

If you use Yfz 450 or raptor hubs. No machine work involved or bolt changes.

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Re: Banshee hub swap
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2012, 04:03:24 pm »
The 450 hubs are not wide enough between the bearings when you slide them on the spindle the inner bearing doesn't sit up tight to the rear lip where the seal rides the outer bearing holds it out due to the taper of the spindle shaft. Yes i have a set of 450 hubs here too. So to do it right this is the way to do it.
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Re: Banshee hub swap
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2012, 02:04:04 pm »
 Use of the LT500 Spindles? and The Brakes? Thats awesome !, has anyone checked the Rotor Bolt Pattern to see if the LT500 Rotors could fit?

Are the Banshee Front Hubs steel or aluminum??
 
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Re: Banshee hub swap
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2012, 03:32:07 pm »
Yep all stock 500 stuff, other than the hubs. The Banshee hubs use 4 bolt rotors and the lt5 has 3 bolt rotors. Anyone have a source for custom made rotors or over sized Banshee rotors?
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Re: Banshee hub swap
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2012, 03:34:41 pm »
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Yep all stock 500 stuff, other than the hubs. The Banshee hubs use 4 bolt rotors and the lt5 has 3 bolt rotors. Anyone have a source for custom made rotors or over sized Banshee rotors?

Yes we do have someone that can do the Rotors for LT500/250 with a Banshee pattern, are the Banshee hubs Steel or Aluminum?
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Re: Banshee Front Hub Swap
« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2012, 04:12:21 pm »
The Banshee hubs are aluminum.
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Re: Banshee Front Hub Swap
« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2012, 04:15:25 pm »
Time to e bay.............woohoo! PM me the cost of modifying them when you can, Thank you , great thread!

Just sent JD customs a DX file on the wave rotor to get cost on LT500 O.D. on a Banshee pattern
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Re: Banshee Front Hub Swap
« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2012, 01:48:54 am »
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Re: Banshee Front Hub Swap
« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2012, 04:47:03 am »
How much to mod the hubs?

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Re: Banshee Front Hub Swap
« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2012, 08:04:46 pm »
JD Steinmetz, Owner
Can make Banshee pattern x LT500 O.D. or the  LT250 O.D. Wave Pattern Front Rotors 
1 set $85 pair
3 set $75 pair
5 set $65/pair
In case you guys want a group buy
These are the LT500 Rotors, but you get the ideal.

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Re: Banshee Front Hub Swap
« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2012, 11:33:26 am »
I just want to run spindle mount wheels. What do I have to do to accomplish this?
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Re: Banshee Front Hub Swap
« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2012, 09:38:28 pm »
I just want to run spindle mount wheels. What do I have to do to accomplish this?

If they are banshee spindle mounts they will bolt up fine, but the spindle isn't long enough to get the cotter pin in the hole to lock the nut on
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Re: Banshee Front Hub Swap
« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2013, 09:31:25 am »
So im interested in swapping my front end out to stock and seen this.

Has anyone else don this? I dont plan on running front brakes and may want to run spindle mount wheels also like diablo. Maybe..

If the spindle isnt long enough to get a carter pin in than why not tighten the hub nut down with hub on. Mark whete the cotter pin goes. Remove everything. Re install the nut and drill a new hole?

 

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